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Re: Motoring from Newport, RI to Annapolis, MD - trip planning

I've been looking at the next parts of the trip and have a question about Cape May and anchoring off the Coast Guard station - it looks like those 10+ feet depths are all part of the channel. If I draw connecting lines between the reds and lines between the greens they seem to block out all the deeper water. Is this just because of the map scale?

These could be juvenile horse flies or, as Mast-und-Schotbruch suggested, stable flies. Numerous are dead and the others are just hanging about, hopefully they are stunned and I can vacuum them up. They are all over the inside, but I'll put up flyscreens tonight and this will be the first time that i have to use 'em.


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Re: Motoring from Newport, RI to Annapolis, MD - trip planning

You are ok near the 7 . 10 ft . Note not the 7 A

You may want to go over to Lewes across the Bay.
There is deeper water to the west of the ferry breakwater near Lewes Beach. No fuel over there.

Weigh anchor at 6-6:30 on July 23 and by the time you hit the Miah Maul you be assisted by at least a two knot current which should keep assisting the whole river and continue through the Canal. There I’d fuel at Schaefer’s 2/3 way through the Canal.

You goal should be Betterton on the Sassafras....southern shore about 1.5 miles in from the Channel.


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I've been looking at the next parts of the trip and have a question about Cape May and anchoring off the Coast Guard station - it looks like those 10+ feet depths are all part of the channel. If I draw connecting lines between the reds and lines between the greens they seem to block out all the deeper water. Is this just because of the map scale?

These could be juvenile horse flies or, as Mast-und-Schotbruch suggested, stable flies. Numerous are dead and the others are just hanging about, hopefully they are stunned and I can vacuum them up. They are all over the inside, but I'll put up flyscreens tonight and this will be the first time that i have to use 'em.
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Re: Motoring from Newport, RI to Annapolis, MD - trip planning

(Back again) I got an e-mail from the guy who is going to manage the refit for me and he had suggested I skip Cape May and head straight to Schaefer's and stay there. That would be a long haul and I don't know if I can make the timings work out correctly. I like a short day to Cape May and a chance to get ashore and shop for fly strips and other means of insect destruction. There are still a number of lives ones buzzing about the cabins and cockpit area that are just waiting for me to fall asleep.

I checked the internet and seemed to get mixed reported depths for the Cape May Canal depth; officially it says "12 feet controlling depth" but I found one page which mentioned 7 feet dropping off to 1 quickly. Does anyone know if it really is that deep or should I just ask once I get there? It would save a bit of time for me if I could take it...


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Re: Motoring from Newport, RI to Annapolis, MD - trip planning

I have tried several things to combat these dreadded flies. The best thing is a stiff wind. Without the wind, this works;

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Re: Motoring from Newport, RI to Annapolis, MD - trip planning

If you needed a layover day to recover from the blood loss and 100 degree temps, you could possibly hang in AC for a day and re-stock. If Farleys can fit you. And head up the Delaware from there Going around Cape May. When you check in with the CG in AC, you could check with them re: Canal Depths.

Or just get to Cape may tomorrow and the CG station may have ore solid info. Trick is getting off the boat there. I don't know who there could accommodate your depth. It looks like the Canyon Club claims an 8' approach. Also, you'd be Transiting the Canal near low tide to be able to take advantage of the flood up the bay, so it might be risky without solid intel.
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Re: Motoring from Newport, RI to Annapolis, MD - trip planning

I have transmitted the Canal many times.its depths are a true 11-12 in the middle, however you must stay close to the ferries when you get there. You also have to negotiate the “flats” on exiting for 15 miles which are shallow for your boats draft to get back to the channel.

Not sure how you would ever go to Schaffer’s and ride a current, from where you would be at Atlantic City. it would take you many extra hours under motor bucking the two to three knots. Bucking the Delaware current anywhere is not smart especially up where it’s narrow and runs stronger. It’s easy to think this through to much, and you won’t like tying up at Schaffer’s. Besides the ripping current through there, there are big ships ( ( 100 ft+) which come throughout and through quite a wake in a confined area. The only place to tie up is the fixed bulkhead right after the bridge ( fuel dock) which sticks out into the Canal . Personally I would never say at Shaffer’s except to get fuel. So your friend is suggesting a long day plus fighting the current, tying up at a suspect place where you might get batted around plus your last day to Annapolis is 58miles vs 38 from Betterton .

BTW , If you aren’t taking the Canal, you’d have to come back out the Cape May inlet and go around the point, so you may as well have stayed in Lewes.

Atlantic City to Lewes May be the best option that way you don’t have to worry about depths of the Canal or depth of the Coast Guard anchorage. Atlantic City to Lewes 43. Lies. 47 miles to the Canal and another 13 to Shaffer’s if you don’t get fuel in Atlantic City. You’d get to Schaffer’s at 12-1 in the afternoon weighing anchor at 6 AM at either Cape May or Lewes. If you don’t need fuel and keep going you’d get to Betterton by 4 PM . You’d have an easy 5-6 left to Annapolis.

We usually do the Cape May Canal, but only draw 5 ft. If you take the Cape May Canal you will have to zig zig across the flats and shoals to get back to near the channel because of your draft. Again we are 5 feel and can cross those flats. Almost everyone needs to be close the the channel when you get to Cross Ledge.

My recommendation is anchor of Atlantic City. Pull in on the rising tide and get fuel at the Farley dock if you must.....go to Lewes and set yourself up to do your final two days. One longer one and other short one.i always let the current work for me.
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Re: Motoring from Newport, RI to Annapolis, MD - trip planning

I just arrived at Atlantic City 30 minutes ago and have just opened a happy-hour and arrival beer after dropping the hook and calling into CBP to report my location.

I don't know how accurate Marinetraffic is, but I came into the harbor at speed, slowed to 5 knots then slowed to sauntering pace while approaching the spot off the Coast Guard station. The charts had been spot-on up until now so the little spot that read 10 feet didn't worry me until the depth went up rapidly from 6-5-4-3-2 and aground... Judicious reverse gear and some German invective got me off the shoal mud and I motored around that spot and now have 5 feet under the keel at low tide. I put out 4:1 scope for high tide although there's no sign of CuNim around. The little flies are dying in droves but some seem to be resistant against permethrin or have not alighted on any of the cushions. Unfortunately, the 2-stroke versions of flies, or fleas, are buzzing around the boat but they will probably retire to the casinos ashore come dark.

I've got a sorry excuse for an anchor ball put up and I hope that my night-anchor-light will last the night. I might disconnect my green and red navigation lights and leave the aft white light on just so that nobody will ram me from behind considering my anchor light is a dinghy all-around-white light on a little stick. Not that I don't trust boaters... but I don't trust boaters

I spent several hours today editing pictures, but the motion of the boat was pretty bad (I had to velcro down my little monitor so it wouldn't roll off the nav table) and I'm now tired of being belowdecks. I used my little kitchen alarm set for 10 minutes and popped my head up to scan ahead each time. Only once did I mess up, the alarm went off and I went to the head and then looked, and had just passed a small fishing vessel about 100 feet off to port side. But apart from that one event there was not much activity in the afternoon past the 3-mile line. An additional bonus is that now my holding tanks are flushed and squeaky clean.
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I just arrived at Atlantic City 30 minutes ago and have just opened a happy-hour and arrival beer after dropping the hook and calling into CBP to report my location.

I don't know how accurate Marinetraffic is, but I came into the harbor at speed, slowed to 5 knots then slowed to sauntering pace while approaching the spot off the Coast Guard station. The charts had been spot-on up until now so the little spot that read 10 feet didn't worry me until the depth went up rapidly from 6-5-4-3-2 and aground... Judicious reverse gear and some German invective got me off the shoal mud and I motored around that spot and now have 5 feet under the keel at low tide. I put out 4:1 scope foffr high tide although there's no sign of CuNim around. The little flies are dying in droves but some seem to be resistant against permethrin or have not alighted on any of the cushions. Unfortunately, the 2-stroke versions of flies, or fleas, are buzzing around the boat but they will probably retire to the casinos ashore come dark.

I've got a sorry excuse for an anchor ball put up and I hope that my night-anchor-light will last the night. I might disconnect my green and red navigation lights and leave the aft white light on just so that nobody will ram me from behind considering my anchor light is a dinghy all-around-white light on a little stick. Not that I don't trust boaters... but I don't trust boaters

I spent several hours today editing pictures, but the motion of the boat was pretty bad (I had to velcro down my little monitor so it wouldn't roll off the nav table) and I'm now tired of being belowdecks. I used my little kitchen alarm set for 10 minutes and popped my head up to scan ahead each time. Only once did I mess up, the alarm went off and I went to the head and then looked, and had just passed a small fishing vessel about 100 feet off to port side. But apart from that one event there was not much activity in the afternoon past the 3-mile line. An additional bonus is that now my holding tanks are flushed and squeaky clean.
You made great time.....Talley ho.


Absecon Inlet where you are was hit particularly hard by superstorm Sandy
A few years back it rearranged that inlet a little.

Across inlet from you there is an anchorage in the marsh, but I don’t think it works with your draft. Now that you are south, most groundings will be mud or sand.

Tomorrow if you wait till 9AM there will be a two ft increase in depth on the incoming tide and it may be possible to fuel up. The Coast Gaurd would be the best to ask


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Re: Motoring from Newport, RI to Annapolis, MD - trip planning

Z . As much as I like Cape May, I think I concur that it just might be too much hassle there with your draft. I concur with staging yourself at Lewes to set up for the Delaware passage. With a watchful eye on the Weather of course.
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