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Re: Motoring from Newport, RI to Annapolis, MD - trip planning

Bravo you are doing great. Depths are greater by the breakwater on the eastern end of the mooring field,
Fuel dock is all the way in the mooring field.

Sights to see on the East River. . Rikkers prison, and La Guardia before Hell Gate, after the Gate make sure you take the western side channel passing Roosevelt Island, after that UN , Empire State Building along with the Chrysler Building find the building shaped like a “K”, Manhattan and Brooklyn Bridges, if your lucky a seaplane will land beside you. The South Street Seaport and Wall Street, the new Freedom Tower replacing the World Trades,one you pass the Staten Island Ferry terminal co e the Statue of Liberty.

To go by it don’t take Buttermilk Channel. Also I suggest once you pass the Brooklyn and Manhattan Bridges stay to your port side ( East side of the river ) less traffic. Skirt Governors Island and use your AIS to figure out whose anchored and whose moving since you have no radar. There usually are no less than 20-30 ships, barges, tugs in the area between the Battery at the end of Manhattan and the Verrazano.

It is an awesome trip. However you’ll be glad for the peace and quiet after you go under the Verrazano out into NY Bay. If your weather holds the next day start early so you can make Atlantic City as there is no real place to put in before there. ( you could put in Manesquan Inlet if you need to but will need to take a slip as there is no anchorage or mooring. ) You could put in to Barnegat Inlet but not in any wind with an eastern component and because of your depth , would again need to take a slip at the Lighthouse marina next to the CG station.

Atlantic City - Absecon Inlet easy. You have a choice. Anchor of the Coast Gaurd Station in 15 ft on the south side or take a slip in the Farley Marina. Fuel dock is in there. The fuel dock at Kammermans on your port will be too shallow. Anchoring off the COast Guard station will have a 4 knot current, but we go there all the time. 4 ft tide change.

Cape May the next day is a breeze. Anchor again off the Coast Guard Station. 2.5 kt current . Low tide 9 foot depths. Or go to Lewes Del across the Delaware. Greater depths you need are in closer near the ferry terminal.

Ideal time for you to weigh anchor is 6-6:30 AM on July 23. Should hold two three days on either side. After you hit Brandywine Shoal you’ll do 9-10 knots up to the Canal and through it. Anchor off of Betterton on the Sassafras River. It’s on the south shore not far up the river about 2 mile from the main channel in 14 ft . This leg is 80 miles or saw. If making 9 knots the whole way 9 hours. It is critical you ride the current through or you’ll fight it somewhere at the tune of 4-5 knots SOG. I’ll check on you leave time as you close in on Cape May.

We’ve done the Delaware over 50 times. Not my favorite ride. Make sure you have fly shatters available for the state bird of NJ aka the Greenhead Fly. Once you meet one....you never forget the only good Greenhead is a dead one. They are carnivores.


. Easy 35-37 miles to Annapolis from the Sassafrass.


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Re: Motoring from Newport, RI to Annapolis, MD - trip planning

I just got going and tried to put together a route with multiple points using OpenCPN on a tablet, but somehow that has eluded me. I did some math and see I'll be at Throg's Neck bridge at 11:30 at my present speed. I'll slow down a bit and time it so that I get there at 12:30. I'm looking forward to this drive-by of New York

I should plan my arrival at Hell Gate for 13:18, correct? 7nm from Throg's Neck to Hell Gate @7kn is 12:18 so this should be easily doable. I'll reduce my speed even further to time it correctly, particularly as the currents I'm motoring against in the Sound right now are going to turn to my favor in an hour.
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Re: Motoring from Newport, RI to Annapolis, MD - trip planning

I don't know why - but this is a great thread to follow - almost like being there 😊👍
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I just got going and tried to put together a route with multiple points using OpenCPN on a tablet, but somehow that has eluded me. I did some math and see I'll be at Throg's Neck bridge at 11:30 at my present speed. I'll slow down a bit and time it so that I get there at 12:30. I'm looking forward to this drive-by of New York

I should plan my arrival at Hell Gate for 13:18, correct? 7nm from Throg's Neck to Hell Gate @7kn is 12:18 so this should be easily doable. I'll reduce my speed even further to time it correctly, particularly as the currents I'm motoring against in the Sound right now are going to turn to my favor in an hour.
If you're more than 5 minutes late the Hellgate keeper won't let you pass. ;-)

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If you're more than 5 minutes late the Hellgate keeper won't let you pass. ;-)
You must mean the troll under the Halley’s Point bridge😂😂😂😂😂


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Re: Motoring from Newport, RI to Annapolis, MD - trip planning

Maybe consider refueling , and slowing up. I can see your AIS signature that your off Northport and have 21 miles approx to the Throgs Neck, putting you there around 11: 30 at your current 7.5 knots.

No advantage in getting there early, in fact I have found around the slack current is when you get caught in the barge trains with the tugs. That’s When they move.

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I should plan my arrival at Hell Gate for 13:18, correct? 7nm from Throg's Neck to Hell Gate @7kn is 12:18 so this should be easily doable. I'll reduce my speed even further to time it correctly, particularly as the currents I'm motoring against in the Sound right now are going to turn to my favor in an hour.
Yes, the Current Turns in your favor @ 13:18 (AKA slack) So you won't experience the full rush of current that everyone talks about going down the river. As you head down you may even catch up to a slight contrary current, but by the time you get to the Hudson River, the ebb should flush you out through the narrows and toward AH.

You can pass through between the Brother Islands, via the channel. and then make sure to leave Roosevelt to port.

I will typically, duck behind Gov. Island through Buttermilk channel, and pass though the Bay Ridge flats, keeping to Port on the Hudson and through the narrows, and out of the main shipping channel. But, if you decide to head close to the Statue you can Favor the Starboard side, just keep track of the shipping around Staten Island, and the Ferry. not a big deal.

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Re: Motoring from Newport, RI to Annapolis, MD - trip planning

Thanks again for the posts - and I'm glad others are interested as well. My tank is still 3/4 full so fueling now won't bring that much. I'm going to hit my first waypoint off Huntigton bay and then reduce speed to arrive at Throg's neck at 12:30. I've looked at those charts for the anchorage tonight and those "9" feet don't get any deeper. It looks like I'll get there close to low water, so I guess if I make it in then I'm OK. I'm making another coffee now and trying to decide if I should mount the OK quality telephoto (70-300 Nikkor) or the high-quality wide angle (24-70 FX Nikkor). Plus I'm getting tired of applying 3M Cleaner and Wax manually to all the chalky gelcoat in the cockpit area.
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Whatever you do don't launch your drone near the UN... ;-)
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Re: Motoring from Newport, RI to Annapolis, MD - trip planning

The Depths are Charted at Mean Lower Low Water, you should be arriving on the Falling tide. Low tide is around 5:03 p.m. So you should be able to gauge what you'll have under you at low. There are some 14 ft. charted depths out past the breakwater wall,
However, I think you'll be OK behind the wall just after the last row of moored boats, Give the wall a little room, if for nothing else than to avoid the seagulls, who seem to like the dodgers out there. See what your depth gauge says when you get there. But vessels do anchor past the wall in deeper water.

BTW, Just to be clear, there are two entrances to get behind the breakwater @ AH , you want the Eastern end.

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