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Re: 40 yr old teak decks

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I'm sure cost is a factor, but I think there's more to the decline in teak decks than just that. It's an outdated, inferior material to many minds, and there's a definite trend toward simple and functional. I'm guessing that putting two identical boats side by side, same cost, one with teak decks and the other with synthetic or glass, the majority will choose the latter, maybe by a very wide margin.
I can't say where the majority would come down, but it's true that teak decks are not for everyone. Since it's cheaper not to have them, it stands to reason that would be more popular. Just like an inground pool, they cost more and for some people are a deterrent, while for others an attraction.

Another teak dynamic is that it was being harvested unsustainably and has become harder and even more expensive to source now. The production manufacturers needed so much, it became impractical. I think France, for example, even banned several sources for environmental and social reasons.


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.....I've seen a 4 year old survey and it is positive overall......l
Totally irrelevant, I wouldn't consider a survey that was 6 months old to be worth the paper it was written on. Not all surveys are done with your same interest either. Some are just being done to assess a value and safe condition for an insurance company, other only to justify a value to finance. Folks shop their surveyor for these reasons. Most don't pay to have one get into the nitty gritty, but certainly should.


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So one thing I'm doing is comparing value with apples to apples in mind. I've seen a Pearson 424 sloop. Nearly an identical layout. No teak decks, just toe rail, cockpit combing. It's been sailing the Caribbean for the last 4 years so its outfitted for cruising. Solar, generator, refrigeration, radar, davits, watermaker, autopilot. All the bells and whistles. Asking $56k.

The Bob Perry boat has a higher build quality than the Pearson, it's faster. Generally selling for a higher price point. Asking prices around $120k. Its a striking boat with the teak decks and it has a black hull. Seems like these two things make it harder to sell. Not outfitted for cruising at all. Doesn't even have refrigeration. Good things are its repowered but with a Volvo, rigging and electronics are 5 years old. Asking price is $65k. Seller is flexible on price since it will need to be outfitted. I've seen a 4 year old survey and it is positive overall.

Really the only downer about the Pearson is that I already own one, a 367. Feels like I'd be moving from a Toyota carolla up to a Camry. Lol
Sounds like a tough call, and I have no where near the necessary info to make an informed decision. Nor can tell which one really makes your heart sing, which to my mind IS an important factor when buying a boat.

IF the teak decks are in good shape ó and Iíd seriously NOT trust the seller on this one ó then the recent repowering and re-rigging is worth serious plusses. Not sure what boat you are looking at, but if it is significantly better designed and built vs the Pearson (which are known as good boats), then that also adds weight on that side of the column.

I discount most electronics; the basics are relatively cheap. Radar can be big, but where are you cruising? If the Caribbean, then my understanding is that radar is rarely needed. Refrigeration? Having just done the job itís not that expensive (boat buck or two) and not that hard to install in an existing ice box. Autopilot of some sort if essential, and that can be pricey. Not sure how the dark hull factors in. Iíve only ever owned light coloured ones.

Not sure how this all balances out in your calculations, but these are how I would balance what youíve said.

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Re: 40 yr old teak decks

Of course I've been reading everything I can on teak decks and dark hulls. This is an Airex cored hull which adds a good deal of insulation. I dont think taking the boat to the tropics will make a big difference in cabin temp but one thing that's cropped up in my reading is dark colors on cored hulls can lead to delamination.
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Of course I've been reading everything I can on teak decks and dark hulls. This is an Airex cored hull which adds a good deal of insulation. I dont think taking the boat to the tropics will make a big difference in cabin temp but one thing that's cropped up in my reading is dark colors on cored hulls can lead to delamination.
Interesting. My Rafiki has an Airex cored hull. Itís down to a couple of feet above the start of the keel encasement, so not 100%. This boat is definitely well insulated. Stays cool well into the heat of day, and stays warm well into the night. Also insulated against sound, so I sleep well.

Not sure if this is insulating character is due to the Airex, or simply because my hull is so damn thick anyway.

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