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Re: Sailing boredom, or rather why so many unused boats?

If its market driven, why the decline in cruising boat ownership?

25 years ago the Toronto boat show had an exhibition building dedicated to keel boats. Now there are maybe 8 boats.

The plus is the dinghy floor space seems to be on the rebound and now kayaks have their own wing.
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Re: Sailing boredom, or rather why so many unused boats?

I haven't seen data that there is a decline in cruising boat ownership, but I'm not following the logic. Sales are based upon current demand, not the inventory of past sales.

The indoor shows I've been to, such as the New England boatshow, have also had fewer and fewer keelboats in them. My guess was that the larger vessels in demand are too difficult to get indoors.


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Re: Sailing boredom, or rather why so many unused boats?

I don't have stats, but I have my doubts that as many people are buying new keel boats today, as they were in the 80s. I wouldnt be surprised if the people buying the big keel boats now, are the same people as those who bought them in the 80s and 90s. I don't think the activuty is attracting a lot of new people.

Multi hulls are a different story.
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Re: Sailing boredom, or rather why so many unused boats?

Arch, I don't think I disagree with your last post, but also don't see how that contradicts the current demand from being for bigger boats.

The last I saw the data, the rise in average boat length wasn't all that dramatic anyway. Just don't feel like looking it up again, but it's out there.


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Re: Sailing boredom, or rather why so many unused boats?

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I don't know. I think manufacturers have engineered large vessels to be manageable by smaller crews, which makes them more accessible to the consumer. 40 years ago, there were virtually no lines lead to the cockpit and certainly no electric self tailing winches. These innovations have been game changers and larger boats are more comfortable and useful to have guests along. They have their well discussed downsides too, but I think it's demand driven, not foisted upon the consumer.
I've noticed that larger boats are running into space issues. Port Jeff Yacht Club where I am spending a lot of time this season has over a dozen 500 pound transient moorings. Boats in the 30 to 40 foot range like mine can pick up any one of them. They only have two 600 pound moorings for larger boats. Some had to be turned away Labor day weekend.

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Currently: Heading to warm waters over the winter on a variety of boats.

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Re: Sailing boredom, or rather why so many unused boats?

A lot of things are getting past their expiration date.
Harley is in big trouble. Boomers either have theirs or are aging out. Younger folk either have no interest in riding or are on crotch rockets.
Antiques and other collectibles have no market.
Small keel boats aren’t as fast nor fun to most as compared to other boats/boards/skiffs/moths/cats/tris in terms of appeal to the younger crowd. Bigger keelboats can cruise. Their market share is threatened by multis not smaller boats. Due to cost/beam/aesthetics/other considerations they will be around but market proportion will be higher in boats over 60’.
People are living in cities more than suburbia. The immigration back to cities is primarily fueled by folks under 40. Having something you can blow up or fold up and store in an apartment has great appeal. Having something that costs a small fortune and requires a long commute doesn’t.
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