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Sailing a 19ft boat from Branford CT to Glen Cove Long Island NY

I am thinking (with a friend) of sailing/motoring a CD Typhoon from Branford CT to Glen Cove NY (home port) in a weekend. The boat has a 6hp outboard. Since We have no experience sailing in that area I would love to have advices and suggestions. Is it possible to do it in 2 days? What would be best and fastest route to follow at this time of the year? Suggestion of places for overnight with access to a marina? I would appreciate any feedback.
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Re: Sailing a 19ft boat from Branford CT to Glen Cove Long Island NY

I think that your options are endless. You can bounce along the Conn. Coast and cross over or you can Cross early and bounce along the LI coast.

Branford to Port Jeff Is around 20 miles + or - Mooring, Launch, nice showers and a cute town.

Port Jeff to Glen Cove roughly 27 miles. With the right wind and weather you could easily do this in two days.
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Re: Sailing a 19ft boat from Branford CT to Glen Cove Long Island NY

I agree with the Branford to Port Jefferson to Glen Cove route or Branford to Bridgeport or Fairfield or Norwalk, then to Glen Cove if you must do this in two days. But it won't be easy to do this in two days. These boats are moving well if they are sailing at 3 knots and you need time to stow and get underway and anchor (or tie up) at the next location so these would be 2 very long days, probably 10 hours each day if you have a good breeze. For what it's worth, if there is 10-12 knots of favorable winds, these boats are faster under sail than powering.

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Re: Sailing a 19ft boat from Branford CT to Glen Cove Long Island NY

Easy two day or a long one day trip in a small boat like that. Carry lots of fuel in case you need to motor and wait for a good weather window. Pounding into a strong westerly in a 19 footer will not be fun. Good stops would be Norwalk on the Ct side and Pt Jeff and Northport on the LI side.
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Re: Sailing a 19ft boat from Branford CT to Glen Cove Long Island NY

Approx 50 miles, give or take, should be easily doable in two days. One really long one even.

Assuming you have a smart phone or tablet, buy a charting app. It will come in handy. I now use Navionics. It shows tides and currents, plus plenty of marina and anchorage info. It will also automatically calc time and distance to a destination.

The only thing to watch for in Long Island Sound, is very strong sustained wind opposed to current. Makes things uncomfortable, especially on a small boat.
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Re: Sailing a 19ft boat from Branford CT to Glen Cove Long Island NY

Cross the sound as far west as possible because it is narrower. If the wind is SW to W as it typically is... crossing on a 180 course or so will give you the best wind angle. It's less 10 miles or so... CT shore is not great for anchoring... Norwalk Islands are OK. LI shore means a long run from Port Jeff.... You can anchor in Eaton's Neck... and close reach... to Glen Cove if you do the LI shore. North is great.. East works too.

Wind direction and current will make the decisions for you. It can be lumpy just north of Lloyd's Neck.. if wind is opposite current.

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Re: Sailing a 19ft boat from Branford CT to Glen Cove Long Island NY

Hey,

I hope you are very lucky or have a flexible schedule.

You definitely want to leave at low tide to take advantage of the flooding tide to give you a nice push. You do want to do this trip if the wind is from the west. Your best hope is for a nice northerly breeze. Then just sail SW until you get to the Long Island side and then go dead west. There are so many places to stop it would be hard to name them all. I would think that Captains Cove in Bridgeport would be a good halfway point.

I would assume 5 kts for planning purposes. If there's enough wind to sail at 5 kts then great, otherwise motor sail to make at least 5 kts. With a favorable current this should be easy. Since it's about 50nm you have 2 5 hour days. Not difficult at all.

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Re: Sailing a 19ft boat from Branford CT to Glen Cove Long Island NY

5 knots made good would be really moving in a Cape Dory Typhoon.

I think I would guess closer to 3 knots.
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Re: Sailing a 19ft boat from Branford CT to Glen Cove Long Island NY

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I would assume 5 kts for planning purposes. If there's enough wind to sail at 5 kts then great, otherwise motor sail to make at least 5 kts. With a favorable current this should be easy. Since it's about 50nm you have 2 5 hour days. Not difficult at all.

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Barry,

I am not singling you out, and I mean you no disrespect (or anyone else for that matter) since others seem to think that this is a faster boat than it is. For the record an Alberg Typhoon is a very slow boat. With a roughly 13'-0" waterline, these boats have a hull speed around 4.5 knots but these boats neither sail nor motor near hull speed most of the time. If conditions were perfect the boat might average around 3 knots or so, and if there was a helpful current then it might pick up half a knot. But in reality, maintaining an average speed of 3 knots on this boat is not all that easy. A race crew might be able to maintain a higher speed in 10-12 knots of wind on a beam to broad reach but its not going to happen over a long delivery like this one.

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Re: Sailing a 19ft boat from Branford CT to Glen Cove Long Island NY

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5 knots made good would be really moving in a Cape Dory Typhoon.

I think I would guess closer to 3 knots.
My old 18' catboat, with similar displacement, but longer waterline length, could deliver an average of 4 kts, depending on winds and tides. (Faster, of course, with more wind and favorable current.). Having sailed from Wickford, RI, to Mystic, CT, in this boat many years ago, I can verify this trip--comparable to the OP's planned trip--makes for a very, very long day. Don't forget the tides will reverse at least once during such a trip, and probably twice if done in a straight shot. Better to break the trip into 2 legs (or more) and work around the tides, assuming the wind gods cooperate.
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