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Re: A raft up question and a near miss.

The boat at the far end of the anchorage, away from the dinghy dock and all the other boats .... thats me.

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Re: A raft up question and a near miss.

I don't trust raft ups especially by stick pots.

Some years ago we anchored in the area we prefer in Newport Harbor, north east of Ida Lewis. It's a bit shallower there and we've never had any issues of dragging and set 100' of chain.

So after dinner I pop my head up for a look around and see 4 or 5 (can't recall) less than 30' power boats rafted together and now just forward and to my stbd side. They had dragged. No one was on board. I suspected that their anchor with short scope had hooked my chain and I was holding them. I called the harbor master who came out and dissembled the raft and moved the boats one by one. I don't recall where he put them, but in the process the Oldport launch arrived with the (probably) inebriated owners... who got a tongue lashing from the Harbor master... or maybe more. No damage probably because the harbor master was able to save the disaster. I imagined they were familiar with this and know exactly what to do. He may have cut the anchor rode that had snagged my chain and moved the entire raft with his boat and was going to set an anchor on one of the other boats... when the owners arrived.

Of course you can't control someone from anchoring up wind of you and even too close or dragging... or a wind shift. But you can move YOUR boat when conditions change and should be prepared to do so.... quickly. I can do this with the electric windlass and have re anchored multiple times for the above reasons. If an anchor is crowded I prefer to anchor near to what appear to me salty cruiser's boats who I presume know how to properly set an anchor... usually they have chain and a snubber... and if I can ask nearby boats how much chain they have down.

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Re: A raft up question and a near miss.

Here’s a pic of one of those famous power boat rafts. It’s heading out to sea here, with most of the people on shore partying. I was just about to jump in my dinghy when, luckily, someone emerged from one of the boats and managed to motor the lot back into place.

Bizarre… seriously, what is it with power boaters and rafts? I just don’t get it.
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and folks wonder why i donot do raft ups....
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Re: A raft up question and a near miss.

15 Kts when you anchored and 25 later, crazy. Anyone who doesn't know what the weather will do (who does really) and overnight to boot. Just bad seamanship. We do rafts and break up or put away overnight.
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Re: A raft up question and a near miss.

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I don't need to ask myself. When we anchored the wind was blowing 15 knots where I dropped the hook and 25 knots in the place we moved to later. By the time we reset the wind had dropped to less than 10 in that location.
Just offering a perspective you might reconsider next time. You should be able to handle 25kts with your ground tackle. A gaggle of rafted stinkpots is a much bigger risk that you can't manage on your own. I'd take the 25kts any day.
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15 Kts when you anchored and 25 later, crazy. Anyone who doesn't know what the weather will do (who does really) and overnight to boot. Just bad seamanship. We do rafts and break up or put away overnight.
If your anchor is properly set in 10 knots it should dig in more and the wind pipes up to 25 knots especially with the correct scope.

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Bizarre… seriously, what is it with power boaters and rafts? I just don’t get it.
Nor I. One of the things about sailing that I find most appealing is how few people are on my boat.
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Re: A raft up question and a near miss.

We raft up sometimes. Three boats is the limit.

While we like our privacy, sometimes it’s fun to have a party without having to go in the dink. For some of my friends with small kids it’s a giant PIA.

We always are about safety. We watch the weather as well as impending weather. T storms are a no no. We always discuss with the other boats the safety. The anchor being used, the spreader placement, the boat traffic, placement of fenders, springlines etc.

When we want to be alone....we are. When we want to hang out rafted together....we are. Rafting when done properly certainly does not take away from the sailing experience.


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