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Its making about a cup+ per day.
The human body produces around 180ml per day at rest, and of course more than that if working. So that is more than half a cup per person. Then you have to factor in moisture from other sources...cooking, cleaning, showering etc.

A mini dehumidifier cant hurt, but it will be hard pressed to do the job on it's own.

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Maybe put that mini where men dare not to often go..garage area.
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Maybe put that mini where men dare not to often go..garage area.
The interior volume of the boat must be less than a garage. And the chicky is in France so there's only one set of lungs on board. And I only drink beer and that's meant to be dehydrating...
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The interior volume of the boat must be less than a garage. And the chicky is in France so there's only one set of lungs on board. And I only drink beer and that's meant to be dehydrating...
I find drinking beer helps solve most of life's problems ... or maybe it just seems that way .
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I find drinking beer helps solve most of life's problems ... or maybe it just seems that way .
Except for the problem of having to pee too much. That's why I switched to rum!

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Re: Winter has arrived

In past sailed back and forth. This year left boat in Grenada for the summer. Now getting ready to splash on Thursday. Before leaving last spring canvassed every experienced local cruiser I knew about what they do to prevent mildew/mold.
Some run an AC or dehumidifier. Runs into a real expense. Some yards supply them and only allow you using theirs.
Some use rid damp or equivalent. The liquid produced stains and can ruin finishes so be careful. The hanging bags are safer but more expensive.
Some just keep dorades open and run a low power DC fan. Be careful boat isn’t turning into the wind. Venting may not be that good. Rain here can be torrential and overcome dorade drainage.
Some put on what would pass for a winter cover up north and leave dorades open but also crack hatches. Boat stays dry, no UV damage and dust free. Difference in temperature between boat and outside keeps air moving. Of course if cover fails.....big troubles.
Others use a fungicide aerosol before leaving and again when coming back. Problem is you can’t get on the boat for 6 hours or longer after treatment. Stuff is toxic.

We wiped down all the interior with weak vinegar solution and a few drops of Dawn (use brand name dawn). Then rid damp placed about. Then tea tree (kanaberra) in enclosed spaces. Then fungicide. Other than stuff in the lazerrette seemed to work.

Still hard to work. Called one of my daughters. She complained of freezing rain. Couldn’t bring myself to complain about humidity. Doesn’t matter where you are weather conspires to make things difficult.
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I had no idea that mould and mildew was such a pervasive problem and required such extensive measures to combat it on boats as it seems in this thread.

"Mildew requires certain factors to develop. Without any one of these, it cannot reproduce and grow. The requirements are

a food source (any organic material)

sufficient ambient moisture (a relative humidity of between 62 and 93 percent)

a reasonable warmth (77 °F (25 °C) to 88 °F (31 °C) is optimal, but some growth can occur anywhere between freezing and 95 °F (35 °C))

Slightly acidic conditions are also preferred.[5] At warmer temperatures, air is able to hold a greater volume of water; as air temperatures drop, so does the ability of air to hold moisture, which then tends to condense on cool surfaces. This can work to bring moisture onto surfaces where mildew is then likely to grow (such as an exterior wall). Preventing the growth of mildew requires a balance between moisture and temperature either in such a way that minimal moisture is available in the air and the air temperature is low enough to inhibit growth (at or below 70 °F (21 °C) without causing condensation to occur, or in such a way that warmer air temperatures, without an actual change in the amount of water vapor in that air, is by its nature "drier" (has a lower relative humidity) than cooler air and will tend to inhibit mildew growth in this way[clarification needed]. Warm temperatures coupled with high relative humidity set the stage for mildew growth.

Air conditioners are one effective tool for removing moisture and heat from otherwise humid warm air. The coils of an air conditioner cause moisture in the air to condense on them, eventually losing this excess moisture through a drain and placing it back into the environment. They can also inhibit mildew growth by lowering indoor temperatures. In order for them to be effective, air conditioners must recirculate the existing indoor air and not be exposed to warm, humid outside air. Some energy efficient air conditioners may cool a room so quickly that they do not have an opportunity to also effectively collect and drain significant ambient water vapor.[5]"
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Are we promoting growth by using vinegar?
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Re: Winter has arrived

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My Nicro also failed, and not the first one. I took the guts out and fitted a cheap USB fan in the bore. This goes to a small solar panel on deck. I ditched the battery part when it was pointed out to me that our local nights are far more moist than the days. Why would I want to circulate wet air at night? The cheap fan is far better constructed than that poor excuse for a motor in the original. It also moves a lot more air. So far so good. It has even dried racing sails in a day or two that were put away hastily.
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Our first Nicro lasted 13 years with a couple battery changes, our second has been going strong after 5 years.
Every year I open it up and clean And debris , and oil the spindle with a drop or two. This sits in our head and is perfect for removing moisture after showers,


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