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Re: Have sailing Youtubers jumped the shark?

I was listening to the 59 North podcast in which the couple from Distant Shores which is an old fashioned made for TV vlog. One of the things that struck me during the interview was the idea that Distant Shores crew and vloggers approach their cruising as journalists always looking for the story. They said that all cruisers would benefit from this attitude as it gets you involved with what's going on locally and removes you from a self imposed bubble of only hanging out with other cruisers and tourists and the places the frequent.

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Boatworks Today great channel for all things fiberglass. Think he must have a special deal with Jamestown as he only uses Total Boat products.

Lost interest in Mads Sail Life he never seems to sail just works on the boat. Reminds me of the Sailing Nervous they have never left the Intercoastal Waterway.
The BoatWorks sponsorship seems to have come along with his full time effort to vlog. He's dropped all other work. While I think that means we won't get good product comparisons anymore, his technique instruction remains excellent, which is the majority of the value.

Totally agree on Mads. Seems like a really nice guy, but isn't likely cut out to cruise. I recall he jumped ship on one passage he was crewing on. His refit also seems way overdone. There is absolutely nothing he doesn't restore or modify. I think that's the sum of the goal. But he seems happy. I just got bored watching.
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How do you search for a specific YT about repairs and fixes?
SanderO, every YouTube video that is published, has a section for the creator to put in searchable key words and phrases which will hopefully bring you to his channel. You have to first bring up YouTube on your computer, then at the top, there will be a search box. So when you are looking for "how to fix a hole in fiberglass", or "Profurl rollerfurling repair" or just about anything else you can imagine, a whole list of video options will come up. Scroll through and click on the one you want. There are thousands of sailboat repair videos. It can be a lot easier watching someone do the actual work than reading some poorly thought out manual. If you have any questions, leave a comment for the video maker and most of the time you will get a response. Certainly other viewers will respond to your comment. Sailing videos are not limited to just a bunch of "Look at us" travel entertainment. There is a lot of very useful, hands on, information. And that is the sort of YouTube I watch. Andy, on Boat Works Today, has been very helpful for many of my extensive boat repair projects.
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For my $0.02 I enjoy the youtube sailing vids that have a heavy dose of actual sailing and hands on how-to type stuff, including boat maintenance. How to Sail Oceans by Kevin Boothby is a fav, as are The Sailing Frenchman, and Sailing Wave Rover. Also like The Old Sea Dog because I enjoy his personality, but it is pretty light on actual sailing content. The ones I will never click on, or will stop watching immediately once I recognize what they are, are the ones that use attractive and/or scantily clad women as hooks. Not gonna help someone fund his/her sailing lifestyle who uses her body or his wife or girlfriend like that. I can go a strip club or watch porn online for that sort of thing if I really wanted to.
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Johnny, I agree, I like to see the sailing. I get plenty of my own in, but still like to see others deal with the challenges. I never tire of a look at the empty horizon. Itís just like I never tire of the set up where a soldier comes home to surprise his family. Itís been done a million times, but it chokes me up every single time and I love to see them.

The scantly clad issue is clearly in the eye of the beholder. Itís real clear, when thatís the absolute intent. Provocative comments are made, etc. Thatís not my thing. However, all women in the tropics are going to be in a bathing suit, just like the guys. Thatís open to interpretation, which everyone can make for themselves. I only push back on the thought that every bathing suit is selling flesh. Some are. Some arenít.
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Johnny, I agree, I like to see the sailing. I get plenty of my own in, but still like to see others deal with the challenges. I never tire of a look at the empty horizon. Itís just like I never tire of the set up where a soldier comes home to surprise his family. Itís been done a million times, but it chokes me up every single time and I love to see them.

The scantly clad issue is clearly in the eye of the beholder. Itís real clear, when thatís the absolute intent. Provocative comments are made, etc. Thatís not my thing. However, all women in the tropics are going to be in a bathing suit, just like the guys. Thatís open to interpretation, which everyone can make for themselves. I only push back on the thought that every bathing suit is selling flesh. Some are. Some arenít.
Sure... but sailing vids in my opinion should really focus on sailing not the females. I seriously doubt a channel with a bunch of young guys would get the hits and the sponsors that the one with bikini gals do.

As for seeing how other sailors deal with challenges.... well maybe. We all can learn new things... but after 30 years I don't expect to pick up much from a bunch of noobs on a big new expensive boat. But maybe.

I could be interested in seeing visuals of harbors, anchorages, towns, attractions and so on. But even that has a down side. It sure kills the notion of making it your own discovery. For example when I headed down to the Caribe... I had few preconceptions. I had some books for reference... cruising guides, Don Street and so on with some little pics and some harbor charts and had seen visuals on TV I suppose AND I had stayed in a friend's home in Tortola which was their gift when I got married.... back in the mid 70s. I don't even recall why I choose Antigua to make my first ever landfall in the Tropics. But it really felt very new and exciting... and it decidedly would be different if I was replaying something I had seen on YouTube. Same experience with Maine when I sailed there first in the late 80s.

At times it almost feels like... why bother to go with the YouTube shows it all and better!

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Sure... but sailing vids in my opinion should really focus on sailing not the females. I seriously doubt a channel with a bunch of young guys would get the hits and the sponsors that the one with bikini gals do.
Since there are substantially fewer women involved in sailing, I'm sure it's lopsided. Still, women sail. Women wear bathing suits in the tropics. That doesn't make it the focus, unless the viewer chooses to, in many cases.

Honestly, it really does seem to me like some expect women to be "properly" dressed like it was the 1950s, lest be accused of flaunting it.

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.....I had some books for reference... cruising guides, Don Street and so on with some little pics and some harbor charts and had seen visuals on TV I suppose
YouTube is simply the modern, more effective method of all the cruising guide research we've always done. Only better, because the crowd sourced information is not log jammed by a publishing or media company. This comes with other challenges, such as knowing how much you can trust the info, but that's not impossible, as you have countless resources to compare. I never avoided a PBS travel documentary, out of fear it would be too much like actually going. I doubt you have either. The pushback is illogical.

There have been very few harbors anywhere that I've wandered into blind. YouTube is a great benefit. Not mandatory. Anyone that wants to stick with square riggers or churn their own butter is welcome to.


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I know women sailors and boat owners and have done a delivery to the caribe with one. She didn't wear a bikini. Do I care? no... Obviously people with fit bods like to show them off... or partners with them I suppose... or whatever. I don't recall seeing that in the cruising guides of the last millennium...

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Of course sex sells. It's a truism of all marketing. Always has been.

Want to move your newspaper or magazine, or now your youtube video? Put a picture of a sexy person, a cute kitten, or a car wreck on the front page (or now the thumbnail teaser). Most of these successful youtube vids are using sex to sell their sizzle. They do it because it works. That's not a criticism. It's just a fact.

It's also why most (all?) successful youtube sailing channels are populated by young, fit people. They look better in bikinis and speedos than people like me. Yet the vast majority of full-time cruisers are not youngsters. They are 60+ who, like me, don't look that good in their birthday suits.

These channels mostly sell fantasy -- just like all the other "reality shows" out there. Nuthin' wrong with that at all. It's hard work, and all the power to those who make it pay.
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