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How long have these "predatory" tax policies/schemes been in place? Does it go back to the '50s... '80s... the '00s? Since I haven't been a buyer since '85 and likely won't be... this feels "newish"...not that sales and use tax didn't exist.. I was just not aware of it? Now I am understanding that a boat offered for $50K is really $50K + sales tax
New York sales Tax started in 1965 Later than most, I think.

Social Security income wasn't taxed until 1984. up to the 50% level.

Then in 1993, it was Raised to 85% .... One day, who knows, it will go probably go up to 100%

But to the OP .... I believe that Delaware, and New Hampshire have no State Sales Tax.
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How long have these "predatory" tax policies/schemes been in place? Does it go back to the '50s... '80s... the '00s? Since I haven't been a buyer since '85 and likely won't be... this feels "newish"...not that sales and use tax didn't exist.. I was just not aware of it? Now I am understanding that a boat offered for $50K is really $50K + sales tax
I thought I was being a Savvy buyer once when I purchased my inflatable. I purchased in a town that was considered an " enterprise zone" with only 3% sales tax. But Low and behold, when I went to the DMV to register it. They informed me that Boat Purchases were not subject to the reduced tax, and I owed them an additional 3% tax.
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The history of taxes is interesting. Tax in some form, has been around forever. We started a revolutionary war over it (sort of, it was really just the straw that broke our back). Most of the time it was strictly based on commerce or land. It’s more interesting to hear modern political rhetoric, which pretends all these taxes always existed. One candidate wants to use them to redistribute, the next wants to give you your money back. They are both trying to buy someone’s vote. I wish we could come up, with a system that separated policy and law making, from the money.

Both sales and income taxes have only been around permanently in the US since the early 1900s. I think NY, where you live, didn’t adopt until much later. 60s ish?

I wonder how many realize it took a constitutional amendment to give the federal government the right to assess a permanent income tax. Most can’t even answer basic civics questions, but are still allowed to vote.

I say all ballot boxes should be electronic. You cast your votes and are then presented with 5 basic civics questions. If you don’t get 4 right, your vote doesn’t count. 🙂
A test to vote?

I suggest that the “civics” questions picked are by the primary groups Which now make up the US population not by a bunch of educated white old men. This thinking is a way to exclude other less educated citizens .

A litmus test like this has no bearing on the qualifications of a voter to pick THEIR individual candidate. These “Jim Crow” like qualifications were exactly what the southern states tried and continually try to “pare” down their roles of minority voters. The Constitution guarantees civil rights and liberties to the individual—like freedom of speech, press, and religion. it doesn’t require a litmus test. Any attempt to prevent ANY citizen of the US from exercising their legal rights by putting obstructions from voting like a test will and have been ruled unconstitutional. 😃😃😃😃

This really has nothing to do with the OP original question but is a reply to the drift created in the previous post.
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Voting should be required of every citizen, at least showing up at the location or by mail-in, with easy if not automatic registrations.

Write in whoever you like as a protest, mickey mouse ok, but don't just drop the ball.

Failing to do so penalized by your actual week's income, or the average for your county, whichever is less.
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Voting should be required of every citizen, at least showing up at the location or by mail-in, with easy if not automatic registrations.

Write in whoever you like as a protest, mickey mouse ok, but don't just drop the ball.

Failing to do so penalized by your actual week's income, or the average for your county, whichever is less.
Voting should be easy and it an obligation as a citizen. If you have a SS card... you can vote. Why can't an SS card be scanned for date of birth at the polling place? I suppose cheats will find a way to game whatever system... but the one we have in NYS is kinda stupid.

How about giving people $25 when they vote?

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Re: Best Eastern Seaboard State for Sales Tax

My voting comment had a clear smiley at the end, indicating to the absolute least educated that it was in jest.
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My voting comment had a clear smiley at the end, indicating to the absolute least educated that it was in jest.
Sure thing��Mine had a number of smileys after mine also. So it means my comment is in jest also��


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Voting should be required of every citizen...
Getting way off topic, but I take the contrary view on this.

I know it is "common wisdom" that everyone should vote. I disagree. People who care about what is happening, who care about the issues, who take the time to understand what is going on in the world and how their government is operating, do NOT need to be told to get out and vote. They are going to do it all on their own. Heck! You probably couldn't STOP them from voting.

So these "get out the vote" efforts, and any laws that might require people to vote, are only going to end up putting a bunch of people who are uninformed, and don't care, into the voting booth. I don't really think it does any good at all for a bunch of completely uninformed people to cast votes based on God knows what sort of arbitrary criteria. I'd much rather they just stayed home on election day.

What is needed is some way to get people to care, and to get people to inform themselves. Then they would vote without any prompting. How to do that, I have no idea.

My two cents worth.
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Re: Best Eastern Seaboard State for Sales Tax

If anyone thinks ignorance is limited to a particular race, socioeconomic status, political affiliation or any other way one may want to defend their own point of view, I really hope they don't vote. They are too clueless to choose well.

There are far more ignorant people in the majority, as there are far more people in the majority. Duh. Therefore, there are far more people in the majority that would fail my theoretical test. It was to make a point, not to suggest an actual solution.

The power of a democracy is such that the folks who are running things are required to consider everyone's issues, lest the masses rise and do something stupid. When our democracy was formed, fewer than 5% of the population voted for President. By the time Abraham Lincoln was elected, it was maybe 15%. Back then, you couldn't me manipulated by social media or 24/7 cable news on both sides of the spectrum.

The problem is that the ignorant masses, on both sides, are being skillfully manipulated. The system will be destroyed without an educated electorate. It is being destroyed. Need I post examples?


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Re: Best Eastern Seaboard State for Sales Tax

I am a Delaware resident. The state does not have sales tax.

About three years ago I met a couple on the Chesapeake who were residents of the state of Kansas. They had purchased their boat in Connecticut. Then they Immediately moved the boat temporarily to a Delaware marina where they registered the boat to avoid paying a sales tax. As I recall, they got some work done on the boat while at the marina, and afterwards left to cruise full-time until they decided to sell the boat.

Likewise, I occasionally see boats in various places, for example New England, Florida, the Bahamas, that have on their transom a city in Delaware as their home port. When I get an opportunity to talk to the owners, they invariably admit they don’t actually live in Delaware. It’s just where they registered the boat. So apparently there’s a way of doing it.

Me, I keep my boat in Maryland and paid the Maryland tax when I purchased it. While I hate paying it, I figure just pay it and be done with it. I don’t want to worry about getting hassled some day. . The Maryland DNR has been known to scour marinas looking for boats that do not have a Maryland registration sticker.

A problem the OP may run into is one I encountered when I lived in Pennsylvania. One day I got a letter from the state Dept of Revenue saying I owed tax on my boat. I can’t recall what kind of tax they called it. I sent a reply letter stating that the boat had never been in Pennsylvania, it was “housed” (my accountant recommended using that term) in Maryland, and it would never be in Pennsylvania as long as I owned the boat. I never heard back from the Department of Revenue.
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