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Re: NYC - 4th of July - Am I Nutzo?

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The other marina that would be great is North Cove Maina in Tribecca. As far downtiwn as it gets in NYC.

It was $7 per foot but now igy has it they may have dropped to price a bit.
It might sound a lot but for 2 nights may be OK.
https://www.igymarinas.com/marinas/N...SAAEgLK9_D_BwE
North Cove is a nice little spot. Manhattan Sailing School operates from there. I'm not sure, but I don't believe that they have any shower facilities, they don't have many slips, and might have minimum stay for the 4th. I'd call em now.

I believe they all have minimum stays for the 4th, including Liberty Landing. Booking any of the area Marina's for the 4th would likely have to be done asap.
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Re: NYC - 4th of July - Am I Nutzo?

We did the NYC fireworks in 2000, with OpSail (Eagle was not the biggest) and world navies filling the harbor (three aircraft carriers with jump-jets and helicopters landing and taking off, and destroyers and tactical vessels lining the channel up to the GWB) , along with all the cruising boats, cabin cruisers, daysailers, runabouts, USCG and Police RIBís, jet skis and kayaks. SUPís were not in the equation then. It was fantastic, and the fireworks unbelievable. Definitely not an opportunity to be missed. Showers ashore? Who cares? A slip at Chelsea Piers sounds good. We anchored off Ellis Island and had many of the issues others have complained about, though their relevance has diminished in retrospect.
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Re: NYC - 4th of July - Am I Nutzo?

Wow, all I can say is WOW. Thanks for so many thoughtful replies with advice.

I booked Liberty Landing through Dockwa. Sticker shock was a challenge but it's not something I'll do again soon. $8 per foot for the Fri/Sat night of the holiday weekend. $5 a foot the other nights. It's a lot to pay but we will make the best of it. Hopefully can see some of the fireworks from the marina, otherwise I'll look into booking a ride on a tour boat.

Will be taking our time getting there and coming home so hope to make lots of stops along the way.

Anyone need a mooring for 4th of July week in Stonington or Noank let me know. Mine will be empty.
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Re: NYC - 4th of July - Am I Nutzo?

Good choice Liberty Landing but a lot of tall buildings in the financial district between, thinking you would miss a lot/maybe all.
Maybe a call to the marina on a slow winter day would yield some insight.
The tour boats get good spots, you will have a front row seat.
If you can get a tour boat out of New Jersey, that would be a home run as transportation to and from fireworks will crowded.
Again maybe the marina can advise you if any leaving from Jersey or just spend day in the city and go from there.
Also viewing from Governors Island is very good. Do not think there is a direct ferry from Jersey but there are ferries from Manhattan
to Governors Island for a dollar or two. Thinking they will have extended hours for the fireworks but check just in case.
More info on city and western LI sound if you like.
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I took a quick look, for dedicated firework ferries leaving and returning from Liberty Landing, 1st glance didn't see any, But I agree, I would either call the marina or the Ferry companies. NY waterway would be one to call, among others.

Liberty park is Huge, it's possible to be far enough south in the park to get a good view up the east river.

Jersey City has also held it's own fireworks display and festival on the Hudson since Macy's moved from the Hudson to the East River. I believe JC's fireworks are on the 6th this year. But, they haven't posted an official announcement yet, they are quite good.
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We did the NYC fireworks in 2000, with OpSail (Eagle was not the biggest) and world navies filling the harbor (three aircraft carriers with jump-jets and helicopters landing and taking off, and destroyers and tactical vessels lining the channel up to the GWB) , along with all the cruising boats, cabin cruisers, daysailers, runabouts, USCG and Police RIBís, jet skis and kayaks. SUPís were not in the equation then. It was fantastic, and the fireworks unbelievable. Definitely not an opportunity to be missed. Showers ashore? Who cares? A slip at Chelsea Piers sounds good. We anchored off Ellis Island and had many of the issues others have complained about, though their relevance has diminished in retrospect.
I was living on board at Chelsea Piers in 2000 and had a front row seat on my boat for the OP Sail event. Chelsea Piers is a great location for events like Op Sail and Fleet Week but, dockage is pricey especially for transients. Though access to the city is great.
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Liberty park is Huge, it's possible to be far enough south in the park to get a good view up the east river.
Good call, that would be great (especially looking over the Statue of Liberty shoulder)
would surely be a picture for the scrapbook.(do they have them anymore?)

Also, little used by pleasure boats, an anchorage in the Bay Ridge flats, south of Governors Island, good view straight up Buttermilk channel between Gov. Is. and Brooklyn. Depth 15 ft. or so and is used as anchorage/few moorings for barges. Have used many times waiting for fair current, p.u. crew, waiting out weather. Pleasure boats stay away, but always plenty of room and barges block wind and waves. But never have been there on the 4th, and one should consider staying put fro the night after the fireworks.
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Liberty park is Huge, it's possible to be far enough south in the park to get a good view up the east river.
The fireworks have moved back to pier 17 this year; that's just south of the Brooklyn bridge. This spot ought to hav a clear view
from the Black Tom portion of the park on the southern and eastern most point. If I get motivated enough to leave the boat tomorrow, I'll grab a
picture and post it here.

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Re: NYC - 4th of July - Am I Nutzo?

My gut tells me the view from Liberty Landing isnít going to be great It is 2nm from the show, with a bunch of buildings between. Fireworks are a few hundred feet high and many buildings are taller.

Those marina prices are incredible and up charging for the holiday is nutzo. You can always take the water taxi over. Iím sure youíll have a great time.
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Re: NYC - 4th of July - Am I Nutzo?

Not a great idea to see the NYC fireworks from your boat. Sail to some place convenient to mass transit or take a Lyft or Uber to the area north or south of the South Street Seaport... or to the Promenade in Brooklyn Heights... Enjoy the show and go back to your boat.

You can watch the Newport Show from a boat... but the only thing Newport and New York have in common is the NEW...

Car traffic will be a mess... boats the same... do yourself a favor...use your noggin.

pay attention... someone's life depends on it
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