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Michael, how were the outflow winds crossing over to Bowen?
Visibility was down to less than 10 metres in misty snow; the worse the taxi skipper had ever seen, and I hadn't seen it that bad around here in years. The radar and chart plotter said we passed about 50 metres off Point Atkinson, but there was no way to tell. We bucked into a heavy short chop from Point Atkinson to Snug; the Squamish Winds were probably 30 to 35. We couldn't see the cliffs as we entered the Cove. On the way back an hour later, visibility had improved to half a mile or so, and we ran with the wind and seas; much smoother ride.

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Where we keep our boat, Shelter Bay, there is enough fresh water on top of the salt water that it freezes over in these cold spells. I agree totally on the need for a latitude adjustment. Just a few more years.


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Michael,

Are you the fellow who posted a youtube video of 50 knot winds at the dock where you keep you boat? I saw one posted earlier in the month and it was impressive.

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A 45 footer sunk in Shelter Bay on Tuesday. There is some first hand information available on this forum:

(edit: after reading some of the discussion on the forum, there is speculation by one fellow that the sea strainer froze and broke or some other below water fitting. So freeze damage instead of snow load.)

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... worth spending 40 or so bucks on a tarp for. If you do cover it, be careful that you don't leave any place for snow/ice to collect, or the weight can pull the stanchions in.
Snow at sea level has not been a regular feature around here; we generally store the snow up in the mountains for the skiers. When we do get a snow fall, it has in the past usually melted the following day or two, spawning the joke: What do Vancouverites do after a snowfall? ... They watch it melt. A snow tarp would find very little use around here. I do a lot of winter sailing, and the bother of setting and striking a tarp would prevent a lot of spontaneous sails.
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the best solution of course to all of this is to spend some quality time in the tropics.
Very much in the plans... This time next year we'll be somewhere in Central America or on our way to the Galapagos.

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You try getting snow & Ice off of your vessel when out at sea when the deck is moving under your feet... Talk about FUN & GAMES.

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You try getting snow & Ice off of your vessel when out at sea when the deck is moving under your feet... Talk about FUN & GAMES.
Been there... done that. North Atlantic winters are a real bear.

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So here it is Boxing Day, and with no intention to "line up to get into a shopping mall" we checked the boat once again after a couple of days of snow, and more falling as we got there.

We've not gotten near as much as our friends a few miles south, but for this area this is a significant coverage, over 2 feet on the ground. Tomorrow is calling for 7deg C and up to nearly 3 inches of rain... there's gonna be some flooding and heavy snow loads here and there.





What's really rare is the ice... softer now that it's warming up, but the river outside our home is choked with it.. so much that commuter ferries are not running anymore.


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You guys are really getting hammered. Hang in there.

When we purchased our current boat, we had to shovel about four inches of snow off deck, launch her, then break ice to get to a free channel in order to complete the seatrial. Not unheard of in January in Chesapeake country, but not the norm either.

We got permission from the owners to leave the boat in the water at a slip after the seatrial, rather than return it to the yard. We wanted to sail the boat out of Annapolis at the end of winter and deliver it to our homeport.

A few days after seatrial, but before we had exchanged papers, Annapolis was hit with about 2 feet of snow -- very rare for these parts. Around here, that much snow leaves roads impassable for days, so I wasn't able to get out there to check the boat. Before I could, we then got a heavy downpour of rain.

When I finally arrived at the boat, it looked to be sitting very low in the water. I shoveled the companionway clear and opened the hatch to discover an inch of water above the floorboards.

The weight of the snow, made heavier by the soaking rain, had pushed the stern low enough that water had begun seeping in through the rudderpost packing gland, which is normally well above the waterline. The bilge pump had stopped running when the batteries eventually gave out.

So you folks are smart to keep close tabs on the boats with this unusual weather. Problems can arise that you would not normally expect.

Stay warm!


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Good cautionary tale, John. Looking down the docks it's easy to see who checks their boat and who doesn't. We knocked the heavy snow off a few neighbouring dodgers, walking in 2 feet of undisturbed snow on their fingers, you know no one's been around.

Considering the investment involved, it's a bit tough to understand. Even if events take you out of town one would expect that arrangements could be made to have things looked after for you.

With tomorrow's rain, the most likely victims will be the lightly built "boathouses/shelters" than usually collapse or flip under the high centered snow loads.

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