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dhornsey 03-31-2009 01:05 PM

Advice on Small Kayak Brands
 
Hi All,

I'd like to pick up a couple of small plastic kayaks to keep on board. Something in the 10 ft. range and pretty cheap. I am wondering if anybody has any positive/negative things to say about any of the following models:

Perception Prodigy 10,

Old Town Otter

Pelican Pursuit 100

Thanks!

Faster 03-31-2009 03:00 PM

We own two Perception 9.5 footers ("Sparkys") - no longer made, but the Prodigy should be similar. Our Perceptions have two channels in the bottom that stiffen things up, but more importantly act almost like keels in helping the boat to go straight. We are VERY pleased with these boats, and lately the only time the inflatable is out of the bag is when we have company. Otherwise all our shore expeditions are done by kayak.

Oyster proof, barnacle proof and great for exploring areas that would to tough with an inflatable/motor combo.

Looking at your links the Otter looks to have a very flat bottom section, which might make it track less straight than the perceptions. the Pelican looks like a nice boat, friends have one and they like it. My recollection is that the cockpit opening is quite large, maybe too big for safety if you get caught in some wash.

Highly recommend getting skirts, throw bags and pump while you're at it. Middleton Kayaks in N Vancouver is where we got ours, we paid about $1400 for two kayaks w/paddles and accessories. Get the bright colours (yellow, red. orange) and avoid the greens and blues for visibility reasons.

You'll love 'em....

Bilgewater 03-31-2009 03:22 PM

This one isn't on your list but I thought you might want to check it out. I've had this one for about 3 years and am very pleased with it.
http://www.lightspeedkayaks.com/pdf/Enigma.pdf
It only weighs 32lbs and it tracks very well for 9' and will fit nicely on the bow of most boats.

CaptainForce 03-31-2009 04:06 PM

'depends on the plan for use. Those with the two channel "keels" described by "Faster" are like our small Wilderness Kayaks. These are good for flat water. Those without keels are more appropriate for whitewater. Ours are very small and simple, non-self bailing, shells that suit us well.
http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/n...e/IMG_0028.jpg
two Wilderness kayaks on deck
'take care and joy, Aythya crew

meuritt 03-31-2009 05:50 PM

I have no opinion about the specific kayaks you mention, mine is similar to Faster's is a great little play boat for calm water, I use it with my pups to get them to shore, but it is heavy.

it is quite the ordeal to get it off the water and on deck. Will be a lot easier when I rig a block and tackle off the boom, and a means to attach to the kayak, but 50+ pounds is pretty awkward to handle.

Consider the weight as part of the purchase equation

dhornsey 03-31-2009 05:52 PM

Thanks for the feedback guys. Do you find they are easy to get into and out of from your boats? Seems like there might be a few moments of instability when you are essentially standing up in them?

Faster 03-31-2009 06:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dhornsey (Post 469065)
Thanks for the feedback guys. Do you find they are easy to get into and out of from your boats? Seems like there might be a few moments of instability when you are essentially standing up in them?

Practice, practice, practice!! I can get in and out most places without incident, my wife is less comfy with the manouver, and prefers to get in and out off the stern ladder.

The key to this, as with any such craft, is to keep your weight centered in the boat. These plastic kayaks such as we're discussing are very beamy for their length, and as such are relatively stable, but still can be flipped by a careless move. Some like to use a paddle across the boat to evenly transfer your weight, but we've found that stepping into the middle, keeping your weight as centered over your feet as possible, and once "standing/squatting" in the boat sit down smoothly and quickly.

I've flipped ours once when trying to land on a steep rocky beach with a stern line in hand (and got a mitt full of barnacle scratches to boot - painful and bled like crazy), and my wife has managed to dump herself a couple of times getting in and off from the boat, but lately she's got the hang of it.

If you get the kayaks, and want to get some pointers/demos let us know and we'll meet you somewhere if you like!

dhornsey 04-01-2009 12:10 PM

Thanks guys. We ended up getting one Perception Prodigy 10 from craigslist for $370 w/ everything and one Pelican Storm 100 from costco for $340 w/ everything. To my untrained eye the Perception seems like the higher quality kayak, but I guess time will tell.

Now to figure out where to put them...

Faster 04-01-2009 12:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dhornsey (Post 469362)
Thanks guys. We ended up getting one Perception Prodigy 10 from craigslist for $370 w/ everything and one Pelican Storm 100 from costco for $340 w/ everything. To my untrained eye the Perception seems like the higher quality kayak, but I guess time will tell.

Now to figure out where to put them...

That's a pretty good deal...

For a season or two we hung them outside the lifelines(on edge) alongside the cockpit... mostly worked OK unless we were beating in large seas, and it kept the side decks clear for going forward.
We've since added a jib furler, and with lesser need to go forward so much, we've taken to storing them inboard the lifelines amidships.

Have also seen people modify their stanchions with outside racks to stow kayaks outside the lifelines further forward.

These are pretty light, and we just have a long painter on the bows that we use to "lace" the kayaks onto the lifelines and through the toerail (you may not have a perforated toerail on your PSC....)

In any event, you're sure to enjoy them!

poopdeckpappy 04-01-2009 03:18 PM

You're going to enjoy them a lot, I have a Hobie Outback (wifes ) with Hobie drive and a Ocean Kayaks, (mine) we store one ( Hobie Outback ) on the starboard bow stanchions with a kayak racks and the other ( Ocean Kayak Prowler ) stays in the water.

They're pretty easy to get in & out of, just be deliberate in your movement

enjoy


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