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Re: Is flying a pirate flag lame?


Context is probably key to this whole discussion of lameness. To me lame is doing something in an attempt to make yourself 'cool' or 'hip.' (Like when I wear my Mararitaville boat shoes to be cool, I know that is lame, but I focus ont he context of fun.) I would fly the jolly rogers because it is a novelty flag, like the flag with a martini on it is a novelty flag.

I don't think if you see a dinghy sailing around the harbor with a pirate flag raised, that you would be afraid they are going to plunder your yacht.

I don't think many fly it because they believe the flag has a rich sense of history, or they have some romantic sense it will make them look more manly or womanly. It is just fun... perhaps even a little silly...

and that is the context.


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Re: Is flying a pirate flag lame?

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........A question that keeps coming to the forefront by the ... oh lets call them haters.... besides Pirate Flags what else do you 'judge' to be lame.. what else do you say others should not do... because of mere opinion?

And while you are answering questions why are you so judgemental? Is there something about your opinion that makes you feel you are an authority on what is right or wrong (lame)......
This is the issue. You keep saying those that think flying the private flag is lame are haters, judgemental and are saying you shouldn't do it.

This thread specifically asked for an opinion. Just as if the OP asked whether others would dislike their house painted hot pink. I would reply that I didn't like that color house and that I believed most would agree. That's an opinion, but doesn't make one a hater, judgemental nor does it say they can't do it. You said these.

We can kid about whether the flags are lame (and they are) but saying those that think so are haters and insisting they are telling others what they should do is ironically judgemental.
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Re: Is flying a pirate flag lame?

Caring not if you fly a flag or not is NOT being judgmental...

Caring is the judgmental part. The fact that the opening/original poster asked if you thought it was lame, was asking for opinion, not judgement

Saying flying a flag is lame and often suggesting the person who flies a flag is lame --- is being judgmental

While I have suggested haters hate, it is mainly because the position they take and the attitude

Much in the same way, you don't deny being judgmental or letting us know other things you judge society on. Though one could infer one item is Pink Houses and John Mellencamp.

Yes it is ironically judgmental to think (or point it out) your judging is judgmental - Guilty..



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Re: Is flying a pirate flag lame?

So, you're saying that only opinions that agree with yours are non-judgemental.


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Re: Is flying a pirate flag lame?

No.. sorry, I will judge myself, and I will say the fact that you are judging... is judgmental... and accept in the fine line of judging, I will point out what you did. and that in fact that is being judgmental on my part, which is what I said in the previous post.

But I will say, maybe you aren't being judgmental, just looks like it.

And one must ask, what else do you judge?

Emojis?

Boat Shoes?

I will say, I don't believe you to be lame or a hater, though if it quacks it might be a bad doctor

Edit: there is a difference of saying what your opinion is about a subject, from saying others are wrong in their opinion, which I have often expressed an opinion.. one that is judgmental about your judging. dear I say...





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Re: Is flying a pirate flag lame?

I have an opinion on both emojis and boat shoes. Ask away. When you get an answer, it will be just that, an answer. You can judge it to be more, if you like. Just like you can fly a lame pirate flag, if you like.


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Re: Is flying a pirate flag lame?

So you have moved off 'is it lame to fly a pirate flag'

to the more judgmental 'lame flag'


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I'm new to sailing. Is it considered lame to fly a pirate flag up on my shrouds or stays? Just a small one?

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now is the flag lame, or those who fly them that is lame.

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Re: Is flying a pirate flag lame?

The author is just baiting everyone to argue with him. Don't bit. Never ending circle. Yes, there are people like this, no value added, just argue with no points or information. Waste
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The author is just baiting everyone to argue with him. Don't bit. Never ending circle. Yes, there are people like this, no value added, just argue with no points or information. Waste
who is the author? the guy who posted the opening post five years ago..and stop posting shortly after that? only posting four posts in this thread (one more than you (at this point) I might add)... or one of us are (I am guessing) debating this for fun and seeing if we can outwit each other.

Which, I would contend, is waht is lame, but if it is our choice... so be it and so what...

It really is only about four people who are 'playing' in ernest

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Re: Is flying a pirate flag lame?

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So, you're saying that only opinions that agree with yours are non-judgemental.
No, he is going to deny that.

What a hypocrite.

WE all know it is a long grey area. And we all know that there are limits to how much he will allow others to get away with before he makes a judgement.

He is going to pretend he follows the "live and let live" for all things but we know he has his limits just like everybody else. He will form opinions and more as he ages.

Just quit talking to him so he will shut the **** up.
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