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Here is a photo of the boat. Not a Swan.



Centre cockpit.
Yea, this ain't the same boat- I retract my previous statement! But it looks like a happy crew, and I would rather sail with a good crew than a good boat.
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So much for that newspaper report. Maybe they just went into their files and chose a random sailboat picture. Waht kind of boat is it?
The other photo is from Mitch James' Facebook page.

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Here is a photo of the boat. Not a Swan.


Well, glad that's been determined... I was just waiting for someone to guess it was a Hinckley.... (grin)


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btw do you recognize that 'thing'?.... I don't.....
38 feet, right?

CustomPieceOfCrap 38, perhaps?


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That is one ugly boat.

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Nah, you're just seeing it from an unflattering angle, is all...

Don't have my copy of WORLD CRUISING ROUTES handy at the moment to confirm this, but that thing sure doesn't have the look of anything I'd want to find myself aboard in that particular part of the North Pacific, in the dead of winter...
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Wow, harsh.

- Maybe the photo is right after the purchase and right before the renos.
- Maybe the photo is right after their previous epic ocean voyage and right before cleanup.
- Maybe the photo is of their previous boat.
- Maybe the photo is of the boat that rescued them when their previous boat sank.
- Maybe the boat carried them safely for thousands of miles and was loved by them for many years before finally giving out in really bad conditions.

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Facts before judgements, fellas.

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Wow, harsh.

- Maybe the photo is right after the purchase and right before the renos.
- Maybe the photo is right after their previous epic ocean voyage and right before cleanup.
- Maybe the photo is of their previous boat.
- Maybe the photo is of the boat that rescued them when their previous boat sank.
- Maybe the boat carried them safely for thousands of miles and was loved by them for many years before finally giving out in really bad conditions.

etc.

Facts before judgements, fellas.
I would say the two pics are not the same boat. If you bury the rail of the "thing" you would be at a near knock down. But I agree, facts would be nice.
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Sounds like a case of inexperience. With the fore stay gone, the logical thing to do was to set up the jib halyard tight to hold the mast, till things calmed down. Sounds like that wold have only taken a few days wait. A good drogue off the stern quarter would have made a huge difference. It shows how the "Rescue " ship can be a far greater hazard that waiting for calmer weather ,and continuing on the last 300 miles under jury rig. I heard they only had 300 miles to go.
Love my steel hull, which would not be cause for the slightest worry in those conditions.
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Sounds like a case of inexperience. With the fore stay gone, the logical thing to do was to set up the jib halyard tight to hold the mast, till things calmed down. Sounds like that wold have only taken a few days wait. A good drogue off the stern quarter would have made a huge difference. It shows how the "Rescue " ship can be a far greater hazard that waiting for calmer weather ,and continuing on the last 300 miles under jury rig. I heard they only had 300 miles to go.
Love my steel hull, which would not be cause for the slightest worry in those conditions.
There are a lot of reports of what happened, have not read everything and may be some contridictions, but I understand the skipper tried to rig the halyard as you suggest and got a concusion in the process, they also tried to jury rig but the sea/wind was too much in their situation. And now they got some experience.
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I'm pretty sure at one point it was mentioned that the chainplates pulled out of the deck, causing the mast to fall (while the one guy was up trying to do something about the forestay)

While not unheard of, that's something one would hope would not happen with a suitable offshore boat. I suspect/hope that poor old girl had seen better days.... Also IIRC they only claimed 4 years sailing experience outside of beach cats..

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Wow, harsh.

- Maybe the photo is right after the purchase and right before the renos.
- Maybe the photo is right after their previous epic ocean voyage and right before cleanup.
- Maybe the photo is of their previous boat.
- Maybe the photo is of the boat that rescued them when their previous boat sank.
- Maybe the boat carried them safely for thousands of miles and was loved by them for many years before finally giving out in really bad conditions.

etc.

Facts before judgements, fellas.
The fact is, the boat in that picture is one ugly boat.

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