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Re: How many women here own their own boat?

I'd like to add that there even some older men who fit that criteria. I'd like to consider myself in that group. My 'amazment' comes from seeing so few women climbing out of the 'traditional' box they cling to for security (??) No one said it's easy but kudos for trying and applause for succeeding and that's not gender orientated. Men too could use some self evaluation (I know ,cries of 'blasphemy'.
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Admiral Howard is a 1978 graduate of Gateway High School in Aurora, Colorado. She graduated from the United States Naval Academy in 1982 and from the Army’s Command and General Staff College in 1998, with a Masters in Military Arts and Sciences.


Howard’s initial sea tours were aboard USS Hunley (AS 31) and USS Lexington (AVT 16). While serving on board Lexington, she received the secretary of the Navy/Navy League Captain Winifred Collins award in May 1987. This award is given to one woman officer a year for outstanding leadership. She reported to USS Mount Hood (AE 29) as chief engineer in 1990 and served in Operations Desert Shield and Desert Storm. She assumed duties as first lieutenant on board the USS Flint (AE 32) in July 1992. In January 1996, she became the executive officer of USS Tortuga (LSD 46) and deployed to the Adriatic in support of Operation Joint Endeavor, a peacekeeping effort in the former Republic of Yugoslavia. Sixty days after returning from the Mediterranean deployment, Tortuga departed on a West African training cruise, where the ship’s Sailors, with embarked Marines and U.S. Coast Guard detachment, operated with the naval services of seven African nations.


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Phenomenal change in societal attitudes within 1/2 a lifetime.

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I, myself, personally intend to continue being outspoken and opinionated, intolerant of all fanatics, fools and ignoramuses, deeply suspicious of all those who have "found the answer" and on my bad days, downright rude.
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Still.. whenever a male is on board a women owned/operated boat, anyone not knowing that, will ALWAYS defer to the male as the "Captain" The times when my son and I were on the Chesapeake anyone looking on would just assume my son was. He and I would just exchange glances and smile. I'd say "there ya go captain" take the wheel" AND pay the bills! LOL

I must say, in defense of men. Many younger men are "with it" and not "amazed" by women doing non traditional things. So.. there is hope
Not really the case in all cases Denise - I'm a geezer and before I "defer" to either I always feel things out to see who's in charge when a man & woman are on a boat. I've found with older and/or very experienced couples, oftentimes no-one is "in charge", any more than they are in long term marriages.

I don't think it's so much being "amazed" as it being uncommon - as I've said before, women in command of their own boats are still pretty unusual. There are about 800 boats in my marina and I've yet to see a woman taking a boat out, either alone or "in charge".

Lots of us would like to see a lot more of it.
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gents thank you for the input.. It's not personal, just general. I'm sure all the guys here on SN are "with it" ! even SJB

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I sill rue the day women got the right to own property instead of being property ....
































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I sill rue the day women got the right to own property instead of being property ....


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Allot of thinking is still that way too.

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Still.. whenever a male is on board a women owned/operated boat, anyone not knowing that, will ALWAYS defer to the male as the "Captain" The times when my son and I were on the Chesapeake anyone looking on would just assume my son was. He and I would just exchange glances and smile. I'd say "there ya go captain" take the wheel" AND pay the bills! LOL

I must say, in defense of men. Many younger men are "with it" and not "amazed" by women doing non traditional things. So.. there is hope
Women I know who own their own boats, often have this problem with male crews, who assume the role of Captain, despite knowing far less than the owner, in fact, almost nothing about boats, compared to the owner.
Young women don't put up with a fraction of the crap that women used to.
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gents thank you for the input.. It's not personal, just general. I'm sure all the guys here on SN are "with it" ! even SJB
Hey I like strong women who go after what they want. That is what I helped raise two daughters to do. And they are off doing there things. I have no trouble sharing responsibilities with strong women.
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Allot of thinking is still that way too.

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In Kiribatti men brag about women there having fewer rights than a dog.
So who breast fed them? Their dogs? It shows man, it really shows!
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Women I know who own their own boats, often have this problem with male crews, who assume the role of Captain, despite knowing far less than the owner, in fact, almost nothing about boats, compared to the owner.
Young women don't put up with a fraction of the crap that women used to.


and this is why i sit on dock or at anchor for 2 weeks or how ever long it takes to have the real personality appear....rodlmffao.. no one gets into my boat and sails away immediately. i have to get to know the quirks and weirdnesses first....lol
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