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Beware new sailor on lake ontario

Hi All,

I recently moved to Canada with my family (wife + kids age 3 and 4) and we ended up close to Lake Ontario, so I am now taking sailing lessons to prepare myself for owning a boat within 1-4 years.

Any tips on meeting sailors, renting boats and otherwise getting some sea-time would be highly appreciated.

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Re: Beware new sailor on lake ontario

Go to the local Marina and make friends, local "Fun" regattas are the best way to learn how to make the Boat go. Careful you might get hooked.

BTW there are some serious discussions on Kids and boats. Safely done there's no better way to grow up. No time for baseball or scouts but hey, we all make choices.
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Re: Beware new sailor on lake ontario

The North Shore of Ontario has many different venues from Hamilton to past Gananoque. Grew up on the South side and sailed a fair bit of the Lake and T.I.

Depending on your circumstances, find a yacht or sailing club that suits and join, before you buy your own boat.

Many people are glad to have crew, there are junior programs and you'll have fun before you spend large sums of money. There may be interval/partial ownership programs or rentals in Toronto, Kingston etc as you build skills.

It's hard to beat a trailer at 100 kph to move your boat, but if you go bigger you can access a vast array of cruising between Trent -Severn, Bay of Quinte and T.I at 5 kts.

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Re: Beware new sailor on lake ontario

My experience has been that I met a lot more sailors after I bought a small sailboat and started storing it at a sailboat-only marina. My investment has been so small that I don't see it as taking away from my retirement fund. Instead, I'm very much further along on my process of becoming a sailor and a sailboat owner. I'm glad I'm doing it on a small boat now rather than waiting for years and starting out on a larger boat.

On owning vs. renting: My philosophy is rent big and own small. Run your own numbers. Mine are: $1000 purchase for a boat that works great for learning and enjoying; $300 annual mast-up, on trailer storage; $120 per year for insurance and tax. Let's say I sail just 50 times in 5 years, then sell the boat for $750. My total cost of ownership is $2350, or $47 per sailing day. I can't rent a boat for that and the lessons of learned sailing my own boat would cost at least 5 times as much if I paid for a sailing class, and I still would learn less I do by getting out there on my own.

There may be some maintenance expenses, but on my old boat with no systems beyond propulsion, my upkeep expenses are negligible, so I have enjoyed spending on some purely optional rigging upgrades.
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Re: Beware new sailor on lake ontario

Thanks for all the encouragement.

Jwing, I'm very tempted to take that route, but wife is not happy to have a boat parked on the front lawn. Let's see what happens, maybe I find a place to park a trailer or an affordable slip somewhere.

I'm based in Mississauga and this is also where I take the sailing lessons. The yacht club here is on the high end for my budget, so I'll probably see if I can crew on some boats - maybe help a bit with maintenance to get an understanding of what it takes to own one.
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