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Hello SailNet!

Good morning everyone!

I am new to sailing, I just passed my ASA 101 class and I am in the process of getting some hours in so I can take the 103 class and eventually purchase a 35' boat to spend all of my time and energy on.

I am in the SoCal area (San Diego) and look forward to sailing out to all of the islands down here, eventually making my way up to the Channel Islands National Park.

I have followed sailing videos for a long time now, and I am prior Navy, so I have some sailing experience, although different from traditional and/or hobby sailing. I look forward to actually enjoying it this time!

I am looking at purchasing a Beneteau, they seem like good quality boats with good craftsmanship. What is all of your opinions on Beneteau, and do you think a 35' boat would be a good boat for beginning sailing? I like that the 35 footers can make rougher passages, carry plenty of stuff, and have room for 4 or more people (usually two cabins). I know Beneteau's are more expensive than other boats, and I am ok with that. I would rather have a boat that is built with great care and attention to detail than any other boat.

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Good morning everyone!

I am new to sailing, I just passed my ASA 101 class and I am in the process of getting some hours in so I can take the 103 class and eventually purchase a 35' boat to spend all of my time and energy on.

I am in the SoCal area (San Diego) and look forward to sailing out to all of the islands down here, eventually making my way up to the Channel Islands National Park.

I have followed sailing videos for a long time now, and I am prior Navy, so I have some sailing experience, although different from traditional and/or hobby sailing. I look forward to actually enjoying it this time!

I am looking at purchasing a Beneteau, they seem like good quality boats with good craftsmanship. What is all of your opinions on Beneteau, and do you think a 35' boat would be a good boat for beginning sailing? I like that the 35 footers can make rougher passages, carry plenty of stuff, and have room for 4 or more people (usually two cabins). I know Beneteau's are more expensive than other boats, and I am ok with that. I would rather have a boat that is built with great care and attention to detail than any other boat.

Thanks everyone.
Welcome to the asylum. Bene's are great boats but, I am biased as I own one. You will get your share of Hunter people, Catalina people, etc.. I would think you want to start off with something a bit smaller... maybe. You are just learning and if you can get some time sailing on other people's boats, that would be a very good thing. Have you looked in to the costs of a 35 foot boat? Slip, maintenance, sails, etc... Have a look at the First 36.7. Nice ride, is quick too. I have sailed on one racing in the Apostle Islands. The Oceanis (sp) series is more cruiser, the First series is a bit more performance based. Get yourself some coastal navigation training too. There is a new thread here on the ASA 105 course. Lots to learn and maybe you can find someone to show you some things and gain some experience.

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A 35' boat is a real handful if one is pretty inexperienced. It's also pretty expensive to dock and maintain for an entry level sporting item.
Why not start out on a very forgiving smaller beater that you can crash into docks, run aground, handle easily by yourself and still have enough room to invite a few friends to go sailing? There are sure plenty of boats that fit these criteria; like a Rhodes 19, for instance. A year or so on her and you'd be ready for your nice 35' Bene.

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I personally like Beneteaus, especially the smaller Firsts, but all kinds of folks like all kinds of different boats for lots of different reasons.

However, personally, I think a smaller boat is better to learn on. Much smaller.

The nice thing about small boats, is they are relatively inexpensive to purchase, and relatively easy to unload if you decide that you want a bigger boat, especially if they are trailerable.
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As I and others are saying, maybe smaller is better. You can stay in the Beneteau family too with a boat like mine. A First 235. Great little pocket cruiser and you can get them on a trailer for around 10K and sell it for that after a couple years too.
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Re: Hello SailNet!

Thank you all for your thoughtful responses.

The club I am just joined offers some 22 foot sailboats for cheap rentals ($50-$75) I was hoping to get most of my experience renting from there since they are so cheap, also probably cheaper than owning a 22 footer. I also dont have a truck or anywhere to park the boat.

I have looked at cost for a 35 footer and with slip fees and so on I am budgeting about $1200 for San Diego

What are some things that are hard to learn about a 35' boat? I am looking at purchasing in 3 months or so, so I can get plenty of experience beforehand renting the 22s and then when I get to the 35 it may be a bit of a stretch experience-wise, but then I won't have to deal with buying/selling a 22. I imagine I will either be content forever on a 35 footer, or upgrade in about 5 years to something much bigger for some serious traveling. Thoughts? Do you think 3 months is good? San Diego bay isn't exactly the most daunting harbor.

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Which Beneteau models are you looking at? San Diego has one of the best Beneteau dealers in the world. 35' for a first boat is big but can be down with the right instruction. San Diego is a great place to learn.
Worth a look http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/2011...s#.WemJf0yZPUY
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For a big boat, there is diesel mechanics, plumbing, electrical, sails are a lot more expensive as is the bottom paint. Things get spendy fast as the boat gets bigger.

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Worth a look - Beneteau First 30
I've actually stepped foot on this boat to look at it, she is very beautiful! The broker I'm working with says I might like an oceanis better because of the cruising aspects. I am looking to eventually take the boat sailing out to Catalina with friends and such.

This seems like a good price for this boat too no? I've seen several Bene's from 95-2005 selling for 90-100k and this one which is practically brand new is going for 110k.

Boat prices are confusing.
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For a big boat, there is diesel mechanics, plumbing, electrical, sails are a lot more expensive as is the bottom paint. Things get spendy fast as the boat gets bigger.
I am looking forward to ripping everything in the boat out and apart over the years while owning her. I am very good in mechanics and electrical, plumbing I can learn. I've heard to estimate around 10-15% of the boats value per year in maintenance, is that true for your Bene?
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