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LOL...you have no idea who you're talking about. Jeff has extensive time at sea.

sorry i meant to say .. i havent.. lol
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It would be interesting to learn how a vegan can do a 20 to 30 day crossing on fresh produce, without a walk in fridge. I've not been able to keep much beyond cabbage for any length of time. We even have trouble managing fresh fruit and veges on a 7 day charter in the Grenadines, if the venders on the small islands can't supply them, which is often the case. We did one charter recently where we couldn't buy limes anywhere in Grenada all the way to St. Lucia. A gin and tonic just ain't a gin and tonic w/o fresh limes! It's a dastardly plot, I just know it is.
well things like cashews and almonds have lots of protein and store fine. dont most boatshave solar panels and fridges tho?
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Re: natural vegan, organic, veganic dude for similiar female sailor

Not necessarily. Beth and Evans Starzinger circumnavigated without powered refrigeration, or climate control.

http://www.bethandevans.com/pdf/Livi...rigeration.pdf
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well things like cashews and almonds have lots of protein and store fine. dont most boatshave solar panels and fridges tho?
Nuts are hardly 'fresh produce' and probably not a very well rounded diet for someone expending the kind of energy long ocean crossings require.
Most boat fridges can hardly hold a week's worth of produce, hence the 'walk in' fridge comment. Keep in mind that refrigeration is the most perishable system aboard a cruising boat, especially at sea, and therefore should not be used as one's only source of food conservation.

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Nuts are hardly 'fresh produce' and probably not a very well rounded diet for someone expending the kind of energy long ocean crossings require.
Most boat fridges can hardly hold a week's worth of produce, hence the 'walk in' fridge comment. Keep in mind that refrigeration is the most perishable system aboard a cruising boat, especially at sea, and therefore should not be used as one's only source of food conservation.
i know nuts arent produce lol , my point is there is food u can use that doesnt need refrigeration. coconut oil as well, some fruit can last a week. how is a solar powered fridge perishable? not sure i follow.
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Perishable is the sense that if a system is going to break on a passage it will be the fridge. They seem to be the most problematic system on board a boat (power or sail)
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Nuts are hardly 'fresh produce' and probably not a very well rounded diet for someone expending the kind of energy long ocean crossings require.
Most boat fridges can hardly hold a week's worth of produce, hence the 'walk in' fridge comment. Keep in mind that refrigeration is the most perishable system aboard a cruising boat, especially at sea, and therefore should not be used as one's only source of food conservation.
Anne Hill's book had two very useful appendixes which dealt with storing food. They were essentially pescatarian during longer passages. They mostly depended on a mix of dried vegitables and fruits supplemented by fresh veg's bought in port for as long as they lasted. I have known a number of folks who did similar things including one couple who did their own canning and solar drying of vegetables when they could get produce in various ports, and would use these to supplement their dried foods underway.

To be clear, even though I have been a vegetarian for most of my life, I don't necessary advocate being a vegetarian unless someone chooses to be on on their own. In that case, that person gets to define what works for them, even if it might not work for everyone or anyone else.

I always figured that I would not use refrigeration on longer passages. Now that wind generators, solar collectors, energy management systems, and refrigeration have gotten more efficient, I might consider changing that position.

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Perishable is the sense that if a system is going to break on a passage it will be the fridge. They seem to be the most problematic system on board a boat (power or sail)
Perishable and often irreparable at sea.

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It is possible to have a reasonable well balanced diet on a variety of dried vegetable, dried fruit, dried mushrooms, dried seaweed, vegetable oils, nuts, grains, pulses, and root vegetable which store quite well in dry peat moss.

A weeds and seeds diet with a good collection of herbs and spices can be a joy, but I also like fresh fish, milk, cheeses and eggs.
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Anne Hill's book had two very useful appendixes which dealt with storing food. They were essentially pescatarian during longer passages. They mostly depended on a mix of dried vegitables and fruits supplemented by fresh veg's bought in port for as long as they lasted. I have known a number of folks who did similar things including one couple who did their own canning and solar drying of vegetables when they could get produce in various ports, and would use these to supplement their dried foods underway.

To be clear, even though I have been a vegetarian for most of my life, I don't necessary advocate being a vegetarian unless someone chooses to be on on their own. In that case, that person gets to define what works for them, even if it might not work for everyone or anyone else.

I always figured that I would not use refrigeration on longer passages. Now that wind generators, solar collectors, energy management systems, and refrigeration have gotten more efficient, I might consider changing that position.

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Interesting what you just wrote. I am vegan although rarely or when not having a choice (ie too much travelling messes up preparation for a healthy and complex vegan meal) I can slip into vegetarianism. I tend to mostly go down the vegan macrobiotic way, but then change every now and then, ie for a while incorporating plenty of complex smoothies and like to experience vegan cooking overall, making cheese from cashew etc. Its not hard, but it requires a different settings then a typical "kitchen".
I just removed the whole old galley on my boat and refitting it entirely to actually fit more my simple vegan lifestyle, but I am a little anxious wondering if I can pull off full veganism on a liveaboard on longer routes. I dont want an oven and dont want a fridge either.

Do you find it challenging, or certain areas that you find challenging? If you have done it for such a long time you must have quite a good experience with it.
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