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Hi Boatsurgeon,

I have a Mirage 35. I’d like to replace the two reef lines this winter. There appears to be in-boom sheaves around which the lines are routed? Any advice on how to accomplish this?

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I just reread your post and realized there was no mention of excess friction, just that you wish to replace the lines.

I replaced the reefing lines in this boom last year.

1. Remove the stopper knot on the boom end cap.

2. Butt stitch a new line to the old (was bitter end of the knot).

3. Pull the new line through by the old (from the other end of the old).

4. Unstitch the old line and discard.

5. Tie a new stopper knot in the new line.
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Thanks. When you pull that boom apart, Iíd appreciate it if you could let me know the length of the two reef lines.

Binding does seem to be an issue.
Last year I replaced the masthead and base of mast sheaves, but both sails require more effort than I consider reasonable to raise. If you have a y thoghts, please share!

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Thanks. When you pull that boom apart, Iíd appreciate it if you could let me know the length of the two reef lines.

Binding does seem to be an issue.
Last year I replaced the masthead and base of mast sheaves, but both sails require more effort than I consider reasonable to raise. If you have a y thoghts, please share!
I replaced the lines in boom on the 33 last year, all standard double yacht braid.

ITEM DESCRIPTION
1.00 Inspect boom reefing system
2.00 RE & RE Outhaul - 42' x 5/16" White
3.00 RE & RE Reef 1 - 54' x 3/8" Blue Fleck
4.00 RE & RE Reef 2 - 72' x 3/8" Red Fleck

For troubleshooting mainsail hoist difficulty, my recommendation is:

1. Clean the track and apply dry lube.

2. Clean the slugs and apply dry lube.

3. Ease and work all reefing lines so they have no bearing on hoist.

4. Hoist the main.

If hard, check all masthead sheeves and deck turning blocks and organizer sheeves for friction.

If easy, the problem is likely in reefing system friction (check boom internals).
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Thanks. When you pull that boom apart, I’d appreciate it if you could let me know the length of the two reef lines.

Binding does seem to be an issue.
Last year I replaced the masthead and base of mast sheaves, but both sails require more effort than I consider reasonable to raise. If you have a y thoghts, please share!
Well, I pulled the gooseneck cap off the boom.

There is a line inside the boom that is severely chafed and appears to have been binding.

The boom has 2.5" wide by 1/8" thick aluminium flat bar pop rivetted down each side. It looks like it might be a Previous Owner mod to help make the boom more stiff/robust.

Can anyone following confirm if this flat bar is factory vs previous owner installed?

I have to have another look, but I think it was the portions of the pop rivets on the inside of the boom that this line was binding / chafing on. That was causing the reefing line to bind up.
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Re: Mirage 33 good and bad

Interesting conversation here, and I'm not here to start a fight, just some comments I have after a full year of Lake Huron cruising on my 1982 M33.

-The stemhead is known to fail. There's proof of this. I had mine made by Stainless Outfitters in Southern Ontario, solid piece, replaced it myself with the boat in the water and mast in place, not rocket science (I made a thread on this).
-The rest of the boat has been AMAZING. She sails well (much to the envy of my friend with a C&C) she's comfortable, we love love love this boat after much shopping.
-Watch for chainplate leaks. They are mounted to a plywood bulkhead and if those rot from a tiny leak in the deck you will have a bad time. Seal the chainplates properly before the leak appears.
-It's a deck stepped mast, make sure everything is sealed proper there as well, don't risk the step!
-My spreaders had cracks on their trailing edges (found this winter when we hauled out and plucked the mast). I had a machine shop do a foldover patch and welded them properly, stronger than new, but prevent them from failing (bad times I'm sure). Inspect your spreaders, especially the trailing edge!
-I found it very difficult to access the fuel tank to drain\clean it. I can't get a syphon hose down the fillter port (the fuel line is routed with too many bends in it) and it's tight working in the lazarette to get INSIDE the tank. I'm figuring out a good way to do it this spring after giving up last summer.

Now, I did alot of research on this boat. Time and time again everyone confirmed they had a solid FG hull. The deck has balsa. I also know the Mirage's were carried on for a long production run too so maybe some of the very late production years had cored hulls, the '82 almost definitely did not unless all my research sources were wrong (save for the 1 post here I'm reading which is the first I've ever heard of it).

Every Mirage I looked at had a heat exchanger freshwater cooling system, so I assume the statement of how they are all raw water cooled if true means most owners upgraded at some point, or that the freshwater cooling was an option offered. To be fair, I looked at 3 M33's and 1 M35 during my shopping, all freshwater cooler (heat exchanger + coolant).

Although a little more power is nice in a diesel, especially in bad weather (don't forget this is a SAILboat now), I will agree the 2gmF13 is about as small an engine as I would want to go on a boat like this, but I don't feel it to be dangerously underpowered for crusing by any means. Without taxing the engine (not riding the redline) in mixed to moderate weather (steep waves on the lake) we still putter along as 5kts+ when we need to motor, with power remaining in the RPM if we needed it.

Just my 0.02c. Not trying to start a finger pointing game, just what I know to date.

EDIT: One last thing in regards specifically to the early 80's M33\35. Honestly I haven't found a single person on the internet (until now, it's now "1") who can say a bad thing about these boats. That goes down to surveyors I know, brokers I spoke to (who weren't selling me the boat, just in conversation), other sailors, and even John Kretschmer himself. I took his workshops a while back and when I bought my current boat he applauded it and said it was a great boat and that some of those early Perry designs were under recognized. If I had to guess why they are under recognized it would be because they are a Canadian made boat generally from the Great Lakes and they don't exactly populate marinas in Florida.

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