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Volvo Ocean Race Yacht Involved in Fatal Accident Near Hong Kong
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HONG KONG ‚?? A sailboat competing in the Volvo Ocean Race, a marquee around-the-world sailing competition, collided with a Chinese fishing vessel near Hong Kong early Saturday, killing one of the Chinese boat's crew members, race organizers and Chinese ...
Fisherman dies and nine crew are rescued after US-Danish 65-foot sloop smashes into it during sailing race off the ...Daily Mail

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Do the usual right of way rules apply in international waters? Sail power has priority over powered boats (with exceptions)?
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From what I understand it was 0230 and many of those fishing boats are unlit. Vestas was doing 20 knots according to the tracker. That fishing boat likely never saw or heard them coming - and Vestas never saw them it appears.

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Sailing into one of the busiest harbors in the world at 20 knots, IN THE DARK has to be one of the most unprofessional, incompetent acts anyone on the water could possibly do. Add that to the tiny mishap of driving onto a well charted reef in the Indian Ocean AT FULL SPEED and you have what must be THE most incompetent racing crew of all time!
So now this race has caused a loss of life of someone not involved in any way, not to mention an inordinate number of crew members over the years. Perhaps it is time to close this fiasco down and send into the record books as a terrible idea from the outset.
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Do the usual right of way rules apply in international waters? Sail power has priority over powered boats (with exceptions)?
Its not nearly that simple. The fact that a boat has its rags up in no way excuses it from its obligations to maintain a proper look out, operate at a safe speed or avoid a collision.

Beyond that, its any bodies guess how the authorities handle it.
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Has nothing to do with this specific incident but just to clarify, the 2 Team Vestas campaigns where skippered by 2 different people. The current skipper, Charlie Enright was the skipper of Team Alvimedica in the previous VOR. Definitely make one wonder if Vestas will be involved in another campaign. They don't seem to have good karma with VOR.

Will be interesting to learn more details on this one. On the surface it definitely seems to be the fault of Vestas 11th hour boat. Regardless on stand on/give way rules the underlying rule is you must maintain watch and operate your boat in a manor that is appropriate for the conditions to avoid collisions. So unless the fishing boat made some erratic and sudden move it sounds like an avoidable collision. Either way it is a black eye for sailing.

Prayers to all involved. Sad.
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Sailing into one of the busiest harbors in the world at 20 knots, IN THE DARK has to be one of the most unprofessional, incompetent acts anyone on the water could possibly do. Add that to the tiny mishap of driving onto a well charted reef in the Indian Ocean AT FULL SPEED and you have what must be THE most incompetent racing crew of all time!
So now this race has caused a loss of life of someone not involved in any way, not to mention an inordinate number of crew members over the years. Perhaps it is time to close this fiasco down and send into the record books as a terrible idea from the outset.
They were 30 nm out at sea, so when do you expect that they should start slowing down coming in to port. The commercial traffic would be doing over 20 knots 30 mile out. I would wonder what size fishing vessel would be 30 miles out with 10 people on board that could be sunk by a 70 sailboat that was only damage on the side of the hull.
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They were 30 nm out at sea, so when do you expect that they should start slowing down coming in to port. The commercial traffic would be doing over 20 knots 30 mile out. I would wonder what size fishing vessel would be 30 miles out with 10 people on board that could be sunk by a 70 sailboat that was only damage on the side of the hull.
This is China, probably still some (or a lot of) antique wooden vessels fishing every day, but a really good question.
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Has nothing to do with this specific incident but just to clarify, the 2 Team Vestas campaigns where skippered by 2 different people. The current skipper, Charlie Enright was the skipper of Team Alvimedica in the previous VOR. Definitely make one wonder if Vestas will be involved in another campaign. They don't seem to have good karma with VOR.
I stand corrected on the crews of the Vestus boat. My bad. Still, as you say, that's two strikes against that team, when none of the others seem to have had any such problems.
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They were 30 nm out at sea, so when do you expect that they should start slowing down coming in to port. The commercial traffic would be doing over 20 knots 30 mile out. I would wonder what size fishing vessel would be 30 miles out with 10 people on board that could be sunk by a 70 sailboat that was only damage on the side of the hull.
Would YOU be sailing at 20 knots coming into one of the world's busiest harbors in the dark, even 30 miles out? Especially one you weren't terribly familiar with.
I'd certainly question the competence of the race committee on the placement of the finish line, but it is always the responsibility of the captain and crew for the result of their decisions. In this case, fault is a moot point because someone is still dead, and it certainly was not an unavoidable accident.
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