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Thanks for the diagram of how the cockpit sole could be supported.

I've also seen some projects that cut the cockpit sole out, remove the rotted/wet wood and then fiberglass the sole back in. But that looks and sounds like a LOT of work.

The support beam underneath sounds easier to do.
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The support beam underneath sounds easier to do.
IIRC there is plenty of room underneath the cockpit to slide something in too.
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IIRC there is plenty of room underneath the cockpit to slide something in too.
Can you elaborate on the "slide something in, too" comment?

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If a trailer is desired. Mine came with a trailer in 2010 and I have used the trailer only once, and that because I did not have the time to sail to the new location.

I guess that means I have a trailer if you need one...
I may indeed need a trailer for this boat. You are in the PNW? I'm on the central Oregon coast.

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Yep, trailer is in Chehalis. Probably 6-8 hours from you.
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I bought a Spirit 23 last autumn and she's been a great boat. She had similar issues when I bought her - some of the core had got damp at some point and disintegrated and the keel cable was snapped (and seized) so I ended up cutting out the housing and fitting a new one. I fed the cable through a 6mm pipe fitted with a grease nipple, which kept the bilge dry and the cable well greased. I need to (partially) lift the keel when in berth because my mooring only has a 4 foot depth at low tide, which is just a little too shallow to leave the keel down.

I had one problem when the keel fell off while out to sea. There was quite a swell at the time. She still managed to sail back into the harbour with no problems, other than she could barely point at all and I had to be a bit careful with the sheets on a broad reach. The original keel was about 250lbs, but the new one isn't much over 150lbs, but it's shaped a lot better.
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i_dunn you mean the centerboard fell off right? If the keel fell off you would be in a world of hurt. The Spirit 23 has a shallow keel on it that the centerboard slots into. The centerboard lowers to add additional stability/pointing. They are two different things.
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Mine has a swing keel, but you're right in that there's a stub keel that the swing keel fits into. The majority of the ballast (approx 75-80%) is in that, so loosing 20+% was mainly noticeable while reaching. I'd heard that some people did have a centreboard instead of a swing keel, hence getting the replacement much lighter. The advantage is that it'll be much easier to fit, isn't likely to rust (as it is fibreglass with a reinforced concrete core) and was much cheaper, but if it does end up too light then I'll have to get a heavier one made. Sunderland Yacht Club has it's own 2 tonne crane, so I can use that to lift the yacht while I replace the swing keel. The trailer also has a split bed and the keel can be lowered out of that as an alternative method (which is probably safer).

The lack of the swing keel/centreboard meant that beating into the wind was almost impossible, so I was fortunate that it was downwind back to the harbour.
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Re: Spirit 23 potential purchase

SPIRIT 23 sailboat specifications and details on sailboatdata.com

While the above site may not have all the info on Spirit 23s, I have not heard or read of a "swing keel" on the 23s.

The boats were either a fixed fin keel, or a long, shallow keel with a slot for a centerboard.

It was my understanding that the CB weighed about 50 lbs.

Can anyone confirm that?
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That's it!

There is a fin keel in Lake Union in Seattle. It is the only living boat I have been able to find with the fin keel, though I have seen photos of them on Google Image Search.
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