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Re: Odd Issue with mainsail on NA/Spirit23

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Re: Odd Issue with mainsail on NA/Spirit23

It looks to me as though this sail was cut for a different gooseneck fitting. Perhaps it is lying about somewhere on the boat.

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Re: Odd Issue with mainsail on NA/Spirit23

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I whipped up a quick diagram in Google Draw. This is the extent of my design skills but hopefully it will illustrate better than words
Ben... thanks for the drawing. After launching and securing the boat in its slip, I will raise the mainsail and see how this sail looks without attaching the cringle to the boom. Once I see that, I should be able to implement one or more of the suggestions you and others have made.

Perhaps I can call Hyde Sails and send the pics to them and ask what's up with this design.
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It looks to me as though this sail was cut for a different gooseneck fitting. Perhaps it is lying about somewhere on the boat.
That may be, but I've gone completely through the boat and not found any other fittings that might be associated with this sail's design.

I launch tomorrow (Tues, 24April) and should be able to see better what my options will be.
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Of course....the png loads on a black background and cannot be seen! Here is a different format.
Ben... thanks for the appended diagram. You say on the diagram to fabricate a velcro loop to hold the clew down. Wouldn't the outhaul accomplish that?

And I have the boom vang for the boat to help hold the boom down in windy conditions and loosen in light winds.
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Ben... thanks for the appended diagram. You say on the diagram to fabricate a velcro loop to hold the clew down. Wouldn't the outhaul accomplish that?
If you keep the foot in the boom then yes, though outhaul is all you need.

If you switch to a loose foot you will want both the outhaul and a way to tie the sail down to the end of the boom. You want the outhaul to control only the belly of the sail. Without the velcro (or a regular line) holding it down, the aft end of the main will fly up into the air and lose all control of the shape. The velcro strap keeps the a clew down onto the boom to prevent that and still allows the outhaul to shape the main.
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Re: Odd Issue with mainsail on NA/Spirit23

Put a small shackle through the top of the bracket that would normally catch and hold the tack.
Use that to lash a few passes of lashing(small rope around the tack and the shackle. You want to get this the right length so it does not pull down and pucker the shape of the sail in that area. It might also need some lashings around the tack and the boom to keep the tack from being pulled aft, when using the outhaul.

I agree with the others, it does not look right, meaning meant to be that way but it does look workable. Try to find out where the sail came from and contact the maker or alterer to see what they were thinking. The pervious owner might already have some lashings or pigtails to make this sail work.

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If you keep the foot in the boom then yes, though outhaul is all you need.

If you switch to a loose foot you will want both the outhaul and a way to tie the sail down to the end of the boom. You want the outhaul to control only the belly of the sail. Without the velcro (or a regular line) holding it down, the aft end of the main will fly up into the air and lose all control of the shape. The velcro strap keeps the a clew down onto the boom to prevent that and still allows the outhaul to shape the main.
Can you suggest the velcro material to be used for this loop? Or will just any velcro work?
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Any strong velcro should work. A local sail maker handed me a strip from a big roll he had so I am not sure what kind it was. It wraps around the boom twice for extra holding power. Nothing has caused it to come loose so far! Not a ton of pressure against these sails.
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Can you suggest the velcro material to be used for this loop? Or will just any velcro work?
Its a double sided piece of velcro with hooks on one side and loops on the other. Take a measurement of you clew or a picture and go to a sailmaker and they will cut you a piece or sew you a piece to match your needs.

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