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I lived on this boat (Kinohi) for several years as a kid. We were a family of 5 and it suited us well.
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Did you get the engine install wrapped up now? I would be interested to know how the Beta 42 fits from all perspectives, noise, power, heat and so forth. I see in the Beta brochure that the gear doesn't have an oil cooler on it, that has to be a bonus.
The Beta43 was almost a perfect match in size to the MD17C. I had a little bit of a clearance issue with the transmission. The shift lever in the default up position had to be moved to a different position to mount the cable bracket. Fortunately, the shift lever wasn't keyed, so it could be moved to any position. The Beta43 required the bed that the mounter mounts attach to be at the same level as the propeller shaft. The rear was dead on but I had to raise the bed three inches for the forward motor mounts.

The new motor is quieter than the old motor by far, is lighter and has more horse power. I installed a blower fan in the engine compartment to remove hot air if it becomes an issue, although that issue hasn't arrived yet. I ran the old motor around 2200 rpm for 6 knots. The new motor with a more aggressive pitch on the prop is running around 1750 rpm for the same speed, so it's almost a fast idle speed. We were burning 0.8gal/hr with the Volvo. We're burning less than that with the Beta, down between 0.5 and 0.7 gal/hr. Not enough hours yet to settle on a figure.

The folks at Beta Marine West in San Francisco were very helpful with questions over the phone. I'd do business with them again.

Sorry for the long delay. We got side tracked with some health issues, just getting back on our feet and looking forward to spending the whole summer up in Faster's neck of the woods this year.

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We are the new (in January of 2016) owners of SerafinaXAnuXDanu (?), a Fraser 41. We bought her in Seattle, where she had been for two years in Lake Union. We had her in Port Orchard until September of last year, and cruised in the San Juans before we sailed her to the Sea of Cortez, where we are now. The Sea is her old stomping ground. She lived here for ten years before her previous owners had her trucked back to the states to sell her.

We love our Serafina. Her interior is lovely and she is a beauty to sail. We hope to have a couple of years here cruising in the Sea and the mainland coast of Mexico before deciding where to go next.

We just met Mike and Doreen on St. Leger, a gorgeous Fraser 41 cutter. They have sailed her for 37 years and have completed a circumnavigation.

We hope to meet other Fraser owners as the opportunity arises.

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We had new sails made for our Fraser 41 and North Sails in Seattle did a great job of reproducing the logo from the old sail. You might contact them (Jack Christiansen) to see whether they have it available.

Eliza on Serafina.
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Hello Eliza, congratulations on your purchase.
We became the proud owners, or perhaps we are actually her humans? of SV Justa in April of 2015. A 1974 Frazer 42 Center Cockpit. One of the original 6 molds before the DeKleer Bros leased the mold and started production of the Frazer 41. After a time on the hard performing some much needed repairs, we moved aboard in October of 2015 in the Victoria BC area. So, we are almost through the first winter and, we are still married. As with yourself, we are deeply attached to Justa, planning to sail the gulf islands and sunshine coast extensively getting to know her before heading ??
She has circumnavigated once with her previous owners and, I am thinking she is up for another round.

It is good to see others that are embracing these beautiful old designs. My girl is not the fastest boat out there and I will not be winning races but, ever heard the story of the Tortoise and the Hare?

lol Justa is like a floating fortress and I think she will keep us safe through the years.

Hope to see you on the water

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One of the De Kleer brothers won the Maui race with his personal Fraser.

Long time ago but it demonstrates that the boat is no slug.

I, myself, personally intend to continue being outspoken and opinionated, intolerant of all fanatics, fools and ignoramuses, deeply suspicious of all those who have "found the answer" and on my bad days, downright rude.
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I often think that the Fraser 41, in particular, is a good, less expensive, alternative to a Passport 40 - one of my favourite 'blue water' designs. Especially if you can find a nicely fitted out and finished one.

Many were sold as kits so the quality is all over the place on that score.

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One of the De Kleer brothers won the Maui race with his personal Fraser.

Long time ago but it demonstrates that the boat is no slug.
Hey SloopJonB

I certainly did not mean to imply anything of the sort. Simply that she is not fast by today's standard.
But, when most of the newer designs are putting in the first reef, Justa is just hitting her stride. No, she is definitely no slug. I searched and researched long and hard before deciding to go old school. No regrets here!

And yes the interiors are all over the map. Gives the first mate an endless list of projects to assign to the skipper.

A labor of love.
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What a great thread! My wife and I have been living on our Fraser 41 for two years now in Juneau, AK and we too are headed south this year. We would love to meet up with any Frasers out there!

Also, does anyone run a C190 engine in their Fraser? It's a great engine but with our 1:1 transmission ratio, finding the right prop is a bugger. Any thoughts from anybody?

We'll be headed south in July so if anyone is around the AK/BC/WA area let us know!
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Hi there all. I purchased Star Seeker, a new/old Fraser 41 from Roy Robinson (the "Roy" referred to earlier in this thread) in July, 2016. The Hull and Deck were built in 1980, and sold to the original owner that year. Unfortunately, he was unable to move past the purchase and so the boat sat in a large warehouse until 1996, when Roy bought it, intending to head offshore following retirement. Roy spent the next 20 years finishing the boat but unfortunately, time, health, and finances short-circuited his dreams. The boat was launched in 2014 and the first time she was under sail was in June 2016 during my pre-purchase sea trial. Star Seeker is now berthed in Deep Bay on Vancouver Island and I am outfitting her for offshore - hopefully leaving next summer (2018).
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