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Dana 24, Orion, Nor'sea

Hi,
We've been looking at used Danas, Orions, and Nor'sea 27s and hopefully plan to buy one this year. Any and all opinions are welcome, including of course any leads to boats. We'll be doing mostly 1 day trips out of Homer AK, but want a good sturdy traditional-styled boat that could take us on longer trips down the road.
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Mike
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Dana, Orion and Norsea

I own a Orion, so you can tell my bias, the Dana is a little short on the water line, if you plan any extended crossings that may be a factor. Both the Orion and the Norsea are 27 feet, waterlines are close enough not to be a factor for this conversation, the Norsea sails fine, but is tight in the cabin. The Orion has better engine access, really nice chart table, good tankage, main salon is larger, also has circumnavigated, and I have a goose neck trailer for mine, so it is also trailerable but is a major project with the permits for a wide load. But the real test is which one "boils" your water. All 3 are very fine boats and a guy could be very proud to own any one of them!!
Dats it from the 3rd coast!
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Nor'Sea

It's been a long time, but my family lived aboard a Nor'Sea for six years Southern California. Apart from the headroom, always a compromise, it was more than adequate. Cruised to Acapulco in '85. One of the first hull, #007, which we finished from a hull, deck and engine. Used the old Lyle Hess rig with short mast and 5' bowsprit - cutter rig. Cruised for 6 months with two little kids, 7 and 3, with no problems at all - carried plenty of stores. Good times. If you have any questions, I'd be more than happy to reply. Overall, the Nor'Sea was an excellent boat, and we miss her (sold her for a house, old story, the kids are still mad...)

Good luck,
Phil and Gay

Would love any info about the boat: Nor'Sea #007, BEAR, originally dark green with red trim, distinctive built-up cockpit, wood stick and bowsprit, cutter rig. Sold in the Bay area in 1987 or so.
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Hi,
I bought an Orion just over a year ago. It is a 1979. It is very comfortable sailer. You might try to get the later version with smaller head (bigger V berth) more ports and maybe a few other enhancements. My scuppers are in the stern and let in water in a following sea. Beam is 9'3", I believe the Nor'Sea is only 8'. I am looking to replace the yanmar 2qm15 - with something larger. Right now I use a 15hp outboard. I would also like to install a heater. I have the A plan, and not sure where the best place to install. I am in BC, I am sure it is colder where you are. Anyway these are my concerns. Happy Hunting! ~Ross
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Hi:
I too am a little biased since I own a Orion 27, but when I was looking for my Pacific Seacraft sailboat I checked out used Flickas, Dana24s, and PS31s. I am a big guy and the Orion 27 fit the best. The Flicka lacked 6'+ headroom, and the Head in the Dana24 and PS31 was small, and the doorway narrow. The galley was small as well. The layout of the Orion 27 offered plenty of headroom, a Head I could manuvere in and a galley that is stretched out with plenty of room. I also liked the fact that the table could be dropped and a cushion added to make a nice double berth in addition to the v-berth. Can't do that on a Dana24 or PS31.
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Hi,
We have a 2000 model NorSea 27. The last two winters we have spent three months in the Florida Keys for a total of six months living aboard. We now have decided that we need more room if we are going to spend a lot of time on our boat. My wife is little but I am over 6'2" and 225 lbs and am finding the NorSea uncomfortable, 8' beam and inadequate headroom. The NorSea does not provide room for guests which is a bit of a problem for us. I first sailed a NorSea in 1980 and always felt they are great boats, still feel that way, they sail well and are very seaworthy but, I'm getting old and want more comfort. We trailer the boat from Iowa to the Keys which, requires a large pick-up (F350 diesel). If you are on the water the cost of tow vehicle and trailer are not an issue but should be considered if not.
The boat is currently on the market in Annapolis, MD and when/if it sells we will move up to a PS Crealock.
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Re: Dana, Orion and Norsea

Jknight...I hope you're still on Sailnet. I am looking to buy an Orion with a trailer. If you're still here I'd so much appreciate hearing about your experiences hauling that boat and what;s involved setting it up. Do you hire a crane to get the mast up? We use a gin pole at ramps for our Catalina 25 mast raising. We would love to move up for some ocean sailing. We live in Colorado. My son has a Pearson 365 and we've put in 3000 miles sailing across the Gulf twice and up the Atlantic coast but we retiring soon and what to set off on our own.
Thanks for replying!!
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Re: Orion 27 Owner

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Hi:
I too am a little biased since I own a Orion 27, but when I was looking for my Pacific Seacraft sailboat I checked out used Flickas, Dana24s, and PS31s. I am a big guy and the Orion 27 fit the best. The Flicka lacked 6'+ headroom, and the Head in the Dana24 and PS31 was small, and the doorway narrow. The galley was small as well. The layout of the Orion 27 offered plenty of headroom, a Head I could manuvere in and a galley that is stretched out with plenty of room. I also liked the fact that the table could be dropped and a cushion added to make a nice double berth in addition to the v-berth. Can't do that on a Dana24 or PS31.

Many different wishes for folks on a boat as there are 50 opinions with 50 folks! All of the craft being considered are wonderful choices for their own individual reasons and merits. Did wanna reply that the head location on the Dana and 31 appeal to many as they are at the bottom of the companionway so no traipsing thought the saloon and no sleeping over your holding tank! Also the disappearing sliding table has 6'6" sea berths on either side so no need to sleep on your table and at least on the 31 there is a 6'6" double quarter berth as well. (we use it as a garage mostly but have had guests) The galley, a least on the 31 is an L shaped configuration, which for us, keeps you braced in with swells, seated if wished and out of the way of traffic. I am 5' 10",not a big guy, and have no headroom issues anywhere below deck. Again, everyone has their ideas of what works, and that is clearly in the eyes of the beholder. We love the Orions, just not what we chose but clearly was the boat for you!

BTW....have spent time aboard all being discussed and also sail a 31. So excited for the OP regardless of which they choose!
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Re: Dana 24, Orion, Nor'sea

If size is the issue not expense the BCC28 is a much better seaboat and live aboard imho. Use of space better. Carrying capacity better. Days work better. Motion better. And built like a brick outhouse. Itís my first choice in that size range. Also some have standing room for pro basketball guards. Just saying....
Boats under discussion are all excellent vessels but before you decide take a peak at a well founded Bristol Channel cutter.

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