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elliowb 02-28-2016 11:17 PM

Companionway Ladder Non-skid
 
I'm in the process of refinishing the companionway ladder. The current non-skid on the treads appears to be the Vetus Non-skid Deck Covering. After 20 plus years of use, it's no longer very non-skid, it's quite dirty, and prevents me from doing a good job of sanding and varnishing the adjacent teak (it stands slightly proud of the level of the teak step).

Does anyone know for sure if that is the material. Also, the Treadmaster product from Lewmar looks like it might be a nice alternative. I can get that in black, so it wouldn't show as much dirt. Or does anyone have other ideas that might be better than either of those?

Pegasus34 02-29-2016 10:51 AM

Re: Companionway Ladder Non-skid
 
The companionway ladder on our PSC 34 was just finished with varnish (no non-skid surface) which was quite a problem. We purchased and installed Treadmaster sheets and they work very nicely.

RobGallagher 02-29-2016 11:02 AM

Re: Companionway Ladder Non-skid
 
I did mine last spring. Started a thread here and got lots of help.

https://www.sailnet.com/forums/gear-m...way-steps.html

I ended up refinishing with non-skid paint additive on the treads, worked out great.

If you do use the additive, don't get it on/near the very edge of the step as it will scrape your calves as you come down the stairs :) I ended up having to sand the edges and refinish them.

Stumble 02-29-2016 01:55 PM

Re: Companionway Ladder Non-skid
 
I use hydroturf on my A-Cat which works well but I don't know how it would hold up to shoes. I have always prefered grip-tape on stair treads. It's incredibly aggressive non-skid, cheap to apply, and available in colors (if you want it). It won't last quite as long as the rubber pads, but it's easy enough to put down more as it wears out.

Capt Len 02-29-2016 02:14 PM

Re: Companionway Ladder Non-skid
 
Flemish coil rope mat

wsmurdoch 02-29-2016 06:05 PM

Re: Companionway Ladder Non-skid
 
The treads of my ladder are unfinished teak. Only the rails are varnished. Bare teak is pretty non-skid on its own. Sober, I've never slipped.

Bill Murdoch
1988 PSC 34
Irish Eyes

elliowb 02-29-2016 09:50 PM

Re: Companionway Ladder Non-skid
 
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Thanks for all the suggestions.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pegasus34 (Post 3365401)
The companionway ladder on our PSC 34 was just finished with varnish (no non-skid surface) which was quite a problem. We purchased and installed Treadmaster sheets and they work very nicely.

I'm leaning that way. The Vetus is nice in that it seems to be predominantly made from cork. However, it is far from non-skid at this point in it's life cycle, so it may be worth trying out the Treadmaster.

Quote:

Originally Posted by RobGallagher (Post 3365441)
I did mine last spring. Started a thread here and got lots of help.

https://www.sailnet.com/forums/gear-m...way-steps.html

I ended up refinishing with non-skid paint additive on the treads, worked out great.

If you do use the additive, don't get it on/near the very edge of the step as it will scrape your calves as you come down the stairs :) I ended up having to sand the edges and refinish them.

I wish that I could use varnish with non-skid additive, however, the steps were dadoed to accept non-skid that is about 1/8th inch (see attached photo).

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stumble (Post 3365761)
I use hydroturf on my A-Cat which works well but I don't know how it would hold up to shoes.

I think in my case I won't be able to use the hydroturf, from what I can tell it isn't thick enough to end up being proud of the teak.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Capt Len (Post 3365785)
Flemish coil rope mat

May have been tongue-in-cheek, but as a traditional boat nut it appeals to me. The only problem I can see is getting the line well secured to the treads. I think I will work on a nice rope mat for the bottom of the ladder. Great idea. Many years ago I spent a number of years helping with the restoration of an old square rigger, so this would be a perfect homage.

Quote:

Originally Posted by wsmurdoch (Post 3366161)
The treads of my ladder are unfinished teak. Only the rails are varnished. Bare teak is pretty non-skid on its own. Sober, I've never slipped.

Bill Murdoch
1988 PSC 34
Irish Eyes

That's a great idea. I was thinking of using Epifane's Rubbed Effect Varnish, but I suspect that on the leading edge of the tread, it might not hold up well. Bare teak gets dirty pretty quick, but maybe some Watco or teak oil. It would be a lot easier to maintain than varnish.

wsmurdoch 03-01-2016 08:05 AM

Re: Companionway Ladder Non-skid
 
My unfinished step treads are flat. They do not have the depressed area that yours have. It looks like you need to have something to fill the routed out areas.

There is a little additional info in an earlier thread https://www.sailnet.com/forums/pacifi...step-pads.html .

Bill Murdoch
1988 PSC 34
Irish Eyes

TomMaine 03-01-2016 09:08 AM

Re: Companionway Ladder Non-skid
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by wsmurdoch (Post 3366161)
The treads of my ladder are unfinished teak. Only the rails are varnished. Bare teak is pretty non-skid on its own. Sober, I've never slipped.

Bill Murdoch
1988 PSC 34
Irish Eyes

I refinished my 1961 companionway a few years ago. I think the tread design is brilliant.

The treads, mahogany, are routed a half inch deep with a 1/2" round bit, every inch and a half (or so).

Each slot is fitted with a 1/2" by 1" strip of teak(I had to replace the the outer worn teak strip on each tread - they were very easy - sand the ends to fit). The strips are tacked in with counter sunk brads(they can't move in their slot).

Here's an even easier step: After stripping the ancient varnish, I simply revarnished the whole thing.

When it was dry, you take a block with coarse sand paper, and clean the varnish off the top of the teak strips. Done.

If treads are removable, this would be an easy add on.

We've (a family of 4) had this boat for nearly two decades, never a slip on these treads.

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1699/...13320dda_b.jpg

jsaronson 03-01-2016 07:32 PM

3m makes adhesive paper. Basically 40 grit sandpaper with glue backing.


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