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Re: PSC 34 Electrical Mystery

You can also try a tone generator/tracker these goodies put a tone on a wire that you can hear with the tracker. The tracker will tell you about where the line is broken. The cost $25 and up -- get one with alligator clips. you can find them at Amazon, I got mine at Home Depot for ~$50 IIRC.
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Absolutely no worries Hush34. I assumed you misread my meaning. Your question reminded me that I have always thought it weird that the Bow Light was not at the bow. Maybe it was found there back in the day of whale oil lamps, long before corrosion of electrical connections was invented.

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I much prefer the term "steaming light". This term tells you what the light is for. The other common terms, bow light and masthead light, just cause confusion.
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I much prefer the term "steaming light".
Ya. Steaming light...heh...better but...

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None of the names are any good. It's not at the masthead. The sidelights are rarely on the sides anymore, however they do indicate a side I suppose.
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Sorry to inform you, aloof, but they white light showing towards the bow IS located on masthead, which is officially (according to several dictionaries) the forward part of the mast. The highest point on the mast is the "truck." But I'll agree that a "motoring" or "steaming" light is a whole lot more descriptive. The nav light manufacturers usually call it a masthead light.
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My masthead light is the 360 deg white anchor light. My steaming light is on the front of the mast, about half way up.

When you get this all sorted out, run new wires, without splices. Pretty sure splices violate some sort of code.


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Re: PSC 34 Electrical Mystery

The names of the lights are defined in the Colregs...

—INTERNATIONAL—
Lights and Shapes
Rule 21 Definitions
(a) Masthead light means a white light placed over the fore and aft centerline of the vessel showing an unbroken light over an arc of the horizon of 225° and so fixed as to show the light from right ahead to 22.5° abaft the beam on either side of the vessel.
(b) Sidelights means a green light on the starboard side and a red light on the port side each showing an unbroken light over an arc of the horizon of 112.5° and so fixed as to show the light from right ahead to 22.5° abaft the beam on its respective side. In a vessel of less than 20 m in length the sidelights may be combined in one lantern carried on the fore and aft centerline of the vessel.
(c) Sternlight means a white light placed as nearly as practicable at the stern showing an unbroken light over an arc of the horizon of 135° and so fixed as to show the light 67.5° from right aft on each side of the vessel.
(d) Towing light means a yellow light having the same characteristics as the sternlight defined in paragraph (c) of this Rule.
(e) All-round light means a light showing an unbroken light over an arc of the horizon of 360°.

On My PSC 34 the breaker labeled "Running Lights" gets both the sidelights and sternlight (and compass light), "Bow Light" gets the masthead light, and "Anchor Light" gets the all-round light. I don't have a good picture of my panel, but mine looks pretty much like this one from Yachtworld.



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My boat has a 12 volt bus near the base of the mast for running lights. All the positive comes from the switches to the bus and get disconnected when the mast comes down. Good place for something to do wrong.

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The proper terms, according to COLREGS, are Side Lights, Stern Light, Masthead Light, and Anchor Light.
I've never seen a pleasure boat with its original panel that had them all labeled correctly. Some get them all wrong.
Most commercial vessels have them right, but then most Captains wouldn't stand for having them labeled wrong.
On a pleasure boat it doesn't really matter what they're called as long as the skipper knows which is which and when to use them.

As to the wiring, who knows what some previous owner has done to it. You just have to get in there and sort it out.
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Re: PSC 34 Electrical Mystery

Well I got to the bottom of the mystery. I pulled the bow pulpit because the wire running through the forward starboard leg was pretty much destroyed by corrosion. In 1989 PSC did not run tin coated copper strand. Anyway, I ran the new wire and bedded the pulpit stanchions with butyl tape. During the reinstatement, my wife in the anchor locker and me topside we managed to crush the new wire and create a nice short circuit.

In addition to that the flange of the stanchion deformed and cracked as it was corroded too. PSC did such a good job sealing the wire run and bolts that water, thru condensation or that managed to push past the wire where the light is installed is trapped.

Pulled the pulpit again and took it to a welding shop in Edgewater Florida. The guy quoted me $120 for the two corroded and cracked flanges to be removed and replaced...turns out it is going to cost me $200. Anyway, lesson learned about the light labels and official terminology, thanks to Aloof and that when tackling a boat project always plan that it will not be a straightforward as you might believe. Still love Hush, our boat, and look forward to many challenging projects.

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