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Thanks aristax! Have reached out to Spade. If ever we get ourselves down to Hilton Head will certainly reach out and if you ever wander up our direction do the same!
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I think you have the right idea. We love our Spade anchor. When we replaced our primary anchor rode, we went with 75' of chain and 250' of 8 plait rope. Didn't want to have the weight of an all-chain rode on the bow but wanted enough chain to ensure good holding and to reduce the risk of chafing on rocks, etc. We chose the chain length of 75' because we figured that would be about the minimum amount of scope we'd ever use (our boat draws 6' and has about 5' of freeboard). With a few meters of the rope out, we don't need a snubber. The price of the Spade is worth the peace of mind.
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I think you have the right idea. We love our Spade anchor. When we replaced our primary anchor rode, we went with 75' of chain and 250' of 8 plait rope. Didn't want to have the weight of an all-chain rode on the bow but wanted enough chain to ensure good holding and to reduce the risk of chafing on rocks, etc. We chose the chain length of 75' because we figured that would be about the minimum amount of scope we'd ever use (our boat draws 6' and has about 5' of freeboard). With a few meters of the rope out, we don't need a snubber. The price of the Spade is worth the peace of mind.

Thanks Damon. Know we will want more chain someday but for now our 11,000lb. displacement with a 4' draft (scheel keel) and anchoring grounds of mostly mud and sand, with little more than 10-15' under our keel for the night (Chesapeake), and wanting some rope out for the same reason, means too much more chain than 30-40 will result in little or no rope out, our at least that's my thinking. Where do you cruise?

Agree on the price vs piece of mind!
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Sounds like we both arrived at our solutions using the same logic. We are based in Georgia. Similar conditions to the Chesapeake except with much larger tidal amplitude and swifter currents.
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What boat do you sail and what Spade model do you use? Also do you use a windlass?

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Interlude, we sail a 1982 PSC/Crealock 37 and use a Spade S100 (44 lbs) as our primary anchor. Our windlass is the original Sea Tiger 555 manual unit (two speed, double action). It's overdue for some TLC but it performs like a champ.
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Re: Chain/Rope rode for PSC31

I don't see using 75 feet of chain. It is either too little and too much, depending on the question.

* Use 100 feet and you can anchor on all-chain most of the time, with a shoal draft boat.
* If 100 is too much, cut back to 20 feet or less. The catanary thing is overblown for a small boat in shallow water; it will stretch out as soon as the wind hits 15 knots. Not theory, experience. If cutting is the concern, you need 100 feet. If swing is the concern, there are solutions.

I've used as much 100 feet and as little as 5 feet, and seldom anything much in between. I know the conventional wisdom of 1-2 boat lengths... but I think it is irrational, based on old wives tales. It is either too much, or too little.

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Donít forget the other benefit of chain; you donít have to worry about it being cut by coral, broken bottles, etc.

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Re: Chain/Rope rode for PSC31

Weight at the bow (and space in the anchor locker) may mitigate against more chain and this is proportional the the displacement of the boat.

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