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PSC34: Rebedding deck hardware and awlgrip deck

We're going to rebed all of the hardware on deck... discovering pesky leaks on offshore sails and we want to make sure that everything is watertight for our trip across the Atlantic.

While we're at it we thought it made sense to repaint the deck. Have any of you done this? What did you do about the non-skid? It seems pretty beefy so we're wondering if you just painted over it, or sanded it down and replaced it.

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Re: PSC34: Rebedding deck hardware and awlgrip deck

Paint isn't as durable as gel coat. It scratches way easier and chalks over time. Stay with gel coat as long as you can. Painted my deck because of a ton of holes from old equipment and major changes to the ports. Pulled all the hardware off the deck which took a long time to remove and more time to reinstall. Keep all the fasteners, machine screws, washers, and nuts with the fittings or you'll go crazy trying to pair them up later. Used Kiwi grip and just painted over the non skid. It was thick and filled in the divots in the non skid. Sanded the non skid off on another boat but it took forever and created an unholy mess with fiberglass dust everywhere.
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Re: PSC34: Rebedding deck hardware and awlgrip deck

Do you have a Crealock? The non-skid is raised on deck and pretty substantial. I think it would be a very onerous task to remove all of the non-skid on the boat and add new non-skid. I'm wondering what other folks have done in this situation... if like you they've just painted over the non-skid with other non-skid.

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Re: PSC34: Rebedding deck hardware and awlgrip deck

Whether it makes sense to paint the deck entirely depends on the condition of the deck. If the gelcoat is in good condition, or could be restored to good condition with the usual process (light sand, gel coat compound, polish, wax) I would say it's not a good idea to paint.

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Re: PSC34: Rebedding deck hardware and awlgrip deck

This makes more sense.

I figured that if I was going to remove all the deck hardware and rebed everything I might as well paint the deck.

But removing that non-skid on a PSC34 is really a big project.

So maybe compound and buff is the way to go.

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Re: PSC34: Rebedding deck hardware and awlgrip deck

Never paint a deck, unless you have literally no other choice. It's definitely not the way to spruce up.

Then, if you do, I'd use Alexseal, not Awlgrip. Same hardness, but Alexseal is repairable, Awlgrip is not. Either way, you'll scratch your paint and it will look poor. Once painted, always painted. Over and over. I love the look of a painted mast, but same rule applies. Not unless absolutely necessary.


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Re: PSC34: Rebedding deck hardware and awlgrip deck

OK , now I think I have it . Your non skid was bonded on ? A friend of mine had a Fisher Pilot House with bonded on non skid , after a long time it started coming off . He had it replaced , as like you say that's a big job , but it turned out nice and I'm sure it's still holding up for the new owner .
Another friend of mine painted his non skid with Interlux Interdeck , his molded in non skid is shallow . After he got done it looked really good and the grit is not real ruff but has good grip .https://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Interde...53.m1438.l2649

Over the years I have used Boat Life for bedding with mixed results . My last bedding project I used 3M 4200 , the leak is still there . No fault of the 4200 I'm sure , gotta try it one more time . My latest leak is in my main sheet traveler where it screws down , so I have to be able to shoot the compound down the hole and then screw in the screw .

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OK , now I think I have it . Your non skid was bonded on ? A friend of mine had a Fisher Pilot House with bonded on non skid , after a long time it started coming off . He had it replaced , as like you say that's a big job , but it turned out nice and I'm sure it's still holding up for the new owner .
Another friend of mine painted his non skid with Interlux Interdeck , his molded in non skid is shallow . After he got done it looked really good and the grit is not real ruff but has good grip .https://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Interde...53.m1438.l2649

Over the years I have used Boat Life for bedding with mixed results . My last bedding project I used 3M 4200 , the leak is still there . No fault of the 4200 I'm sure , gotta try it one more time . My latest leak is in my main sheet traveler where it screws down , so I have to be able to shoot the compound down the hole and then screw in the screw .
Mark, the non-skid on a PSC34 is in the mold.

Bob, I would not remove the original non-skid unless it is crazed or severely damaged. And I would doubt that it is crazed, not on a PSC34. If you have some really dull cloudy gelcoat, you can use some of the super fine Mirlon sanding pads (I know that you can get them at Woodcraft). They come in 1500 and 2500 grit. Then go to rubbing compound and work your way up to finer and finer compound (see https://www.sailnet.com/forums/gear-...olish-wax.html).

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While we're at it we thought it made sense to repaint the deck.
Is your deck already painted?

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Is your deck already painted?

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Bill,

No the deck is not painted.

My original thought that since I was taking off all the hardware it made sense to paint the deck.

Now though based on everyone's advice I think I should not paint the deck... that sanding and buffing is a better way to go.

Glad I have this place as a resource!

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