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overbored 07-15-2019 06:45 PM

Transpac boat sinks
 
OEX has sank but all the crew is OK and picked up by Pyewacket from the life rafts. so any question that they are needed?
https://2019.transpacyc.com/news/art...in-transpac-50

outbound 07-15-2019 08:41 PM

Re: Transpac boat sinks
 
I want to be on a MOD 70 under sail and on foil once in my life. Those things are just awesome.

colemj 07-15-2019 10:03 PM

Re: Transpac boat sinks
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by outbound (Post 2051615086)
I want to be on a MOD 70 under sail and on foil once in my life. Those things are just awesome.

I've done that. Awesome is one word to describe it. Scary is another. That boat is so loaded up at 30-40kts (boat speed) that you can feel it tense and torque throughout its entire structure, and it is obvious it is on edge. Bearing off from windward through the death zone will give you brown pants.

I just saw that Maseratti hit a large solid object at 25kts and has damage. They still seem to be in the race, though.

Mark

MarkofSeaLife 07-16-2019 04:26 AM

Re: Transpac boat sinks
 
Amazing rescue in one hour from EPIRB activation?
Surely not so fast?
Maybe VHF DSC mayday and the rescuing boat was close.
Anyway, incredibly quick pick up.

Yes, liferafts are essential.

colemj 07-16-2019 06:54 AM

Re: Transpac boat sinks
 
They were picked up by another boat in the race that was not far behind them.

Mark

MarkofSeaLife 07-16-2019 07:53 AM

Re: Transpac boat sinks
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by colemj (Post 2051615116)
They were picked up by another boat in the race that was not far behind them.

Mark

A great reason to always be in the lead. :grin

DinghyRace 07-20-2019 09:06 AM

Re: Transpac boat sinks
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by colemj (Post 2051615094)
I've done that. Awesome is one word to describe it. Scary is another. That boat is so loaded up at 30-40kts (boat speed) that you can feel it tense and torque throughout its entire structure, and it is obvious it is on edge. Bearing off from windward through the death zone will give you brown pants.


Iíve sailed a lot of overpowered dinghies, and then big slow keelboats, but never what Iíd consider a large overpowered boat. So, forgive my ignorance, but Iíve always wondered how they jibe these monsters in high wind. Heck, Iíll even chicken-jibe (head up, tack, bear off) a Thistle if itís blowing over 20 kts. Thatís 200 sq.ft. of roached main on a 300 lb round chine hull, very tippy, but not exactly life-threatening.

outbound 07-20-2019 12:34 PM

Re: Transpac boat sinks
 
When the boats can do 30+ kts. Stuff happens fast. Raced against TAG in a Newport Bermuda was in double digits but nothing like this. We were on a small chris White tri and won on corrected time. Depending upon the situation same as a mono. Pull in the main gybe let it out . Need a good helm. Need to pay attention to the seas. Can unload the main a bit if timed right. Need to avoid bearing off to a broad reach and suddenly loading the main excessively before itís let out. Need alert crew whoís done good prep so sheets are let out without fouling.

MarkofSeaLife 07-20-2019 12:50 PM

Re: Transpac boat sinks
 
I am sure some dork/geek/actuary can work it out..... but... whats the pressure on a fitting on a boat at 6 knots compared to when its going 30 knots?
When some pin goes ping it isn't going to land on the deck!

Jeff_H 07-20-2019 01:13 PM

Re: Transpac boat sinks
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DinghyRace (Post 2051615960)
I’ve sailed a lot of overpowered dinghies, and then big slow keelboats, but never what I’d consider a large overpowered boat. So, forgive my ignorance, but I’ve always wondered how they jibe these monsters in high wind. Heck, I’ll even chicken-jibe (head up, tack, bear off) a Thistle if it’s blowing over 20 kts. That’s 200 sq.ft. of roached main on a 300 lb round chine hull, very tippy, but not exactly life-threatening.

The thing to remember is that even in very high winds, the apparent wind is almost always forward of abeam when these boats are at speed. And when they jib, the wind from astern (even in wind speeds approaching 50 knots) the apparent wind speed is less than 20 knots.

Here are a couple videos that shows what big fast boat jibes look like:
and (around 10 minutes in)
Jeff


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