Main Halyard Tension - Page 3 - SailNet Community
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
post #21 of 27 Old 07-29-2015
ASA and PSIA Instructor
 
Join Date: Apr 2000
Posts: 4,070
Thanks: 14
Thanked 54 Times in 52 Posts
Rep Power: 20
 
Re: Main Halyard Tension

Quote:
Originally Posted by albrazzi View Post
If so equipped<<
I always understood the Baby stay did two things, allow the mast to bend (in the right direction) with backstay tension and strengthening the mast while running a spinnaker. Surely there is more to it than that but without this stay you're not in control of the mast column with backstay tension. All the resulting advantages to backstay adjustments are not controllable unless stays (and spreaders) are swept back, without a baby stay.
Babystays have somewhat dis-appeared - I don't think I've seen a babystay in use going back some 25 years, during which I've sailed/raced/instructed some some 40-50 different keelboat cruisers. Back in the 70-80's some masthead boats with slim mast sections and inline shrouds would have those installed to limit pumping going to windward in rough water. Otherwise its just slows the tacking.
sailingfool is online now  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #22 of 27 Old 07-29-2015
Moderator
 
MarkofSeaLife's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: London!
Posts: 7,148
Thanks: 71
Thanked 320 Times in 291 Posts
Rep Power: 10
 
Dock
Re: Main Halyard Tension

In sailing as a cruiser I would think that main halyard tension is the absolute last think to worry about. I keep the vertical wrinkles out of it - showing its too tight, and the spiders web Showing its too slack... And thats all.

Also, cruising, if halyard tension needs altering you probably need to tuck in a reef or shake one out, so that will be done as u reef.

A cunningham eye, line and winch for a cruising boat is a WOFTAM. waster of time and money.

As for in mast furling... I dunno.

Sea Life
Notes on a Circumnavigation:
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.


People can say they want freedom, but offer them the keys to what chains them, a map to where they want to go,
And they'll turn it down for the cell they know
MarkofSeaLife is offline  
post #23 of 27 Old 07-29-2015
al brazzi
 
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Lower Chesapeake bay
Posts: 2,075
Thanks: 1
Thanked 82 Times in 82 Posts
Rep Power: 6
 
Re: Main Halyard Tension

Quote:
Originally Posted by sailingfool View Post
Babystays have somewhat dis-appeared - I don't think I've seen a babystay in use going back some 25 years, during which I've sailed/raced/instructed some some 40-50 different keelboat cruisers. Back in the 70-80's some masthead boats with slim mast sections and inline shrouds would have those installed to limit pumping going to windward in rough water. Otherwise its just slows the tacking.
Didn't know they were that rare, I currently race a CS30 with a BS and a few years back a C&C 33 with one (maybe its a Canadian thing) which is why I pretend to know what its there for. I can't see dependable mast bend on a masthead rig without one but I would admit to moderate knowledge of any of this.
albrazzi is offline  
 
post #24 of 27 Old 07-29-2015
al brazzi
 
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Lower Chesapeake bay
Posts: 2,075
Thanks: 1
Thanked 82 Times in 82 Posts
Rep Power: 6
 
Re: Main Halyard Tension

I'm curious, I have a flattening reef do you use it as a mini reef by shortening sail or is the forward one a Cunningham hole and the leach end pulled back separately for two different adjustments.
No hijack intended but it definitely plays into the theory of halyard tension.
albrazzi is offline  
post #25 of 27 Old 07-29-2015
Senior Member
 
Markwesti's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Seal Beach Ca. ( Long Beach )
Posts: 1,346
Thanks: 121
Thanked 67 Times in 67 Posts
Rep Power: 8
 
Re: Main Halyard Tension

MarkSeaofLife says a cunningham eye, line and winch for a cruising boat is a WOFTAM. waster of time and money. I do not disagree , but.

We have a cunningham cringel , we don't use it anymore but now you have me thinking , I just might start using it again I mean just to see if I have been missing anything . We also have a shelf in our main , possibly the cunningham cringle is there so you can do the tighten up on the shelf when not needed ?

Last edited by Markwesti; 07-29-2015 at 06:58 PM.
Markwesti is offline  
post #26 of 27 Old 07-29-2015 Thread Starter
tdw
Super Fuzzy Moderator
 
tdw's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Sydney Australia
Posts: 17,137
Thanks: 22
Thanked 129 Times in 120 Posts
Rep Power: 10
     
Re: Main Halyard Tension

Wow .... Lazarus lives.

Since the OP (in 2008) we fitted our old boat with a cunningham and it was actually worthwhile. Now we have moved on to the new girl with in mast furler we don't have the option though sometimes I confess I wish we did.

The inmast furler is something of a Curate's Egg.

Andrew B (Malö 39 Classic)

“Life is a trick, and you get one chance to learn it.”
― Terry Pratchett.
tdw is offline  
post #27 of 27 Old 08-10-2015
Senior Member
 
blt2ski's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 7,285
Thanks: 1
Thanked 46 Times in 44 Posts
Rep Power: 16
   
Re: Main Halyard Tension

Where is SD with the ol, don't you know this is a 7/XX yr old thread, poster probably does not post any more!

Oh man oh man oh man! some peoples,,,, sheesh......

Opps, Op is posting still is he not?!?!?

better put phoot in mouth before chewing eh!

marty

She drives me boat,
I drives me dinghy!
blt2ski is offline  
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

By choosing to post the reply above you agree to the rules you agreed to when joining Sailnet.
Click Here to view those rules.

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the SailNet Community forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.
Please note: After entering 3 characters a list of Usernames already in use will appear and the list will disappear once a valid Username is entered.


User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in











Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page



Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Main downhaul vs. halyard tension (vs. Cunningham) Minnesail General Discussion (sailing related) 9 06-09-2016 04:27 PM
Halyard fishing: One main halyard retrieval method that worked. Skyeterrier General Discussion (sailing related) 3 04-13-2016 10:16 AM
Main halyard tension, no winch alexdz Gear & Maintenance 15 09-20-2011 10:39 PM
Halyard Tension on Roller Furling System countdemonet General Discussion (sailing related) 6 06-01-2010 05:02 PM
Headstay/halyard tension to improve roller furling performance teshannon Gear & Maintenance 15 07-06-2007 09:59 AM

Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome