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Not sure what you are trying to say Len. Could you try that again please?

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Re: Steel vs Fiberglass

Bob, I found this page about Etoile Horizon (Star Horizon).

1001 Boats: ÉTOILE HORIZON

"ÉTOILE HORIZON may be a gaff cutter, but she takes full advantage of modern technology. Hi-tech sails combined with carbon blocks, winches and running rigging for maximum efficiency. Built in Cedar epoxy, the spars are surprisingly of aluminium, overall she is a bit heavier than a carbon hull/rig combination. But Etoile Horizon is still a fast cruising boat and one which doesn't disappoint, she can sail at 11 knots upwind and over 15 knots on a reach."

It would be fascinating to compare performance with the same boat with Marconi rig.

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I'm sure we are all impressed with the high tech. I know I certainly am and am amazed at it's application to the gaff rig. I guess I was feeling a little left out of the evolution. When I built Thane out of whatever was at hand and salvaged bottles to pay for it, most of that tech hadn't been thought of yet. Just thought I'd show you an older gaffer under sail and plead the 3rd.(glass of wine when I pressed send)
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What a gal. I like her already! How about some more photos? Of the boat.

ETOILE HORIZON to my eye looks to be a metal boat. I can see it in the finish details. If it is and I suspect it is alu, then it is one fine metal boat.
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Not too many photos of the boat.

Last winter. We live aboard ever other week, soon to be full time.

I acquired to balls after blowing out all my fenders in a gale stuck on a ferry dock in Quebec.

You were talking about replacing sprints. Kinda hard to see but this is our new sprit. The old one rusted through right where the anchor laid next to it. It was filled with some kind of black stuff, apparently to fight rust. It was a simple mild steel box beam with. No whispers. Made the pulpit way wiggly. New sprit is 316.

So I added smaller box beam whiskers which also support the pulpit. Some things I did move weight forward, but it is a compromise to add safety and to make anchoring easier. Anchors now drop and come up without interfering with the bob stay.
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When I read the boat can do 11 knots upwind I'm afraid I have to doubt everything they say about the boat. There is no way in hell that boat goes upwind at 11 knots. Impossible. It draws 6.5'. and the author of that article wants you to believe this boat can outsail a TP 52,,,,upwind? Nice boat. Silly article.

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As I recall, the hockey sticks I used back in the 70's were laminated wood, with a thin fiberglass layer on the blade.

So I think we could properly call them "composite"

Would any (Canadian) experts care to comment?

The hockey stick I bought 4 years ago is also laminated wood. Some things don't change...
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Do NHL players use wood lam sticks?

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Do NHL players use wood lam sticks?
Your question got me thinking; the last time I played ice hockey (about 15 years ago), my favorited wood stick (Guy Lafleur model) was clearly out of place. I swtiched to my composite (wood/GRP) model, but I was still clearly behind the times. Most of the guys (who were considerably younger than me) were using alu sticks with glued-in blades. Break the blade, just glue in another one.

Nowadays, the options are much greater:

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That's pretty interesting, but, frankly, I'd rather hear from a Canadian on this.

(I had a CCM and Sherwood stick.. around 1974)

Oh.. and we didn't have goals, so we just put a couple of boots on the ice for the goal posts

And I had to use figure skates because I didn't have any hockey skates

And some of the kids didn't have skates at all, so they just used snow boots

And it was really really cold walking home

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