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I am puzzled why it is that most classic yachts on the East Coast have their running rigging in what appears to be 3 strand nylon instead of polyester braid or similar.Where I live nylon 3 strand would "die" very quickly from UV.Perhaps it is not nylon.Perhaps it is cost related or maybe that it just "looks" traditional.
Can some kind soul enlighten me as to the reason for this choice.
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I am puzzled why it is that most classic yachts on the East Coast have their running rigging in what appears to be 3 strand nylon instead of polyester braid or similar.Where I live nylon 3 strand would "die" very quickly from UV.Perhaps it is not nylon.Perhaps it is cost related or maybe that it just "looks" traditional.
Can some kind soul enlighten me as to the reason for this choice.
Chris, it's not nylon - it's either 3-strand polyester or polypropylene and is made specifically for use on classic yachts, giving a similar look and feel to natural fibre but with far superior UV and water resistance. This stuff mostly comes from the US or Europe made by specialist companies like New England Ropes.



A traditional-looking braid, usually referred to as "regatta braid", is also available, but is harder to splice (real classics require lots of splicing!) so is more common on more modern rigs.


PS: If you drive down to Auckland and wander around the Viaduct, you'll see the same stuff in use in your part of the world.

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Re: Classic Yacht Running Rigging

Thanks for that info Mr Classic-This stuff has to be available in "Un Zud" will have to make some enquiries-I wonder how it compares price wise with braid.
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Thanks for that info Mr Classic-This stuff has to be available in "Un Zud" will have to make some enquiries-I wonder how it compares price wise with braid.
I'm sure it is.. I'd start by dropping into Fosters next time you're in Orkland and asking the guys there.

On this side of the ditch, I notice Classic Boat Supplies are selling Hempex 10mm 3-strand for $1.79/m.. that's slightly more expensive than an equivalent double-braid, but not much.

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I swiched to 1/2 " 3 strand dacron hemp lookalike from Germany and liked the looks and feel .Coiling was a bit trickier and if any one else did up a halyard it was a tangle A problem was it tended to unwind at the becket end.Not impressed. At first I blamed my splices but no cure.
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I swiched to 1/2 " 3 strand dacron hemp lookalike from Germany and liked the looks and feel .Coiling was a bit trickier and if any one else did up a halyard it was a tangle A problem was it tended to unwind at the becket end.Not impressed. At first I blamed my splices but no cure.
Maybe someone coiled it wrong and stressed the core? All of the 3-strand I've ever used needed to be coiled up with the lay or end up in a serious mess. Having said that though, some brands are definitely better quality than others.

They were using some really good stuff on the Bark "Europa" - they had reels and reels of it - but I can't remember what it was..

EDIT: might have been this, but don't quote me on it. Brain ain't what it used to be..

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My coiling of long halyards was the problem as I make longer coils than short asssed deckies and the rope has such a memory . No core ,eh. the lay just lengthend out (increased pitch) Tried to wind a turn or two into it when gaff was down by turning it thru each sheave.,didn't help .Five years with navy surplus manila and 30 years of double braid so I wasn't just shoving off. Spliced commercialy for the fishing fleet too. Others in the area went to the poly hemp looking stuff. Not as good long term UV ,I think.
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My coiling of long halyards was the problem as I make longer coils than short asssed deckies and the rope has such a memory . No core ,eh. the lay just lengthend out (increased pitch) Tried to wind a turn or two into it when gaff was down by turning it thru each sheave.,didn't help .Five years with navy surplus manila and 30 years of double braid so I wasn't just shoving off. Spliced commercialy for the fishing fleet too. Others in the area went to the poly hemp looking stuff. Not as good long term UV ,I think.
By 'core' I meant maybe the center of a strand is separating from the inside out. As I said, some brands are better than others - and it seems you do get what you pay for.

When looking to buy (very infrequently these days) from shop display, if it's a brand I've not come across before I put a quick eye-splice in the loose end (just a couple of tucks) and if it starts to come apart in my hands I move on to someplace else.

What do you think of New England Ropes?? Starting to see a bit of it here..

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Classic, No opinion based on no knowledge (not that that stops most of us) Sold Thane and now the only splicing I do is on Thai longtails . They only know tatty ragged ends of poly 4 strand. So I do back and eye spices to tidy things up.
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Re: Classic Yacht Running Rigging

Golly I have started something here-Got on the net and did the rounds of the Auckland based chandlers-then got wise and went to the guys who supply the Commercial Fishing industry-I used to buy all my wet weather gear from them (not exactly fashionable but boy it did what it was designed for)--Found three strand poly and also poly yacht braid at just over half the price of the chandlers provided I buy 100 metre pack.Thanks again for all the input.-Chris
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