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Re: Clearing lobster pot tangle

How do you find a diver while stranded somewhere. Or are you figuring on just getting a tow to your slip and calling for someone their.

I'm not sure who to call for diver service.I suspect the towboat guy knows who to call.

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Re: Clearing lobster pot tangle

The hook knife will work from the dinghy as well. Having a mask and snorkle may help you see what you are doing from the dink.

Practice reaching the prop/shaft with the boat hook before you have to attach the hook knife and do it for real.

If you need a diver I'm sure Sea Tow will know how to find one, or since you will be in local waters doing classes on a regular basis, maybe you should google a couple now and find out from them how much it's gonna cost to get them to come to you.

If you have Sea Tow and you can cut the line from the pot they will come tow you home...or you could sail home or to an anchorage as long as there is a breeze.

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The hook knife will work from the dinghy as well. Having a mask and snorkle may help you see what you are doing from the dink.

Practice reaching the prop/shaft with the boat hook before you have to attach the hook knife and do it for real.
I'll try that at the dock, someone on the finger may be able to see what I'm doing.

We don't carry a dingy.

I wonder if with a life jacket on laying face down in the water with goggle is I could see the prop.

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Re: Clearing lobster pot tangle

I can see it now.

A class of 101 beginning students. We wrap the prop under power.

I hook the pot but the line is till wrapped. I sail back to the town dock. Walk back to our dock. Fire up the Ericson 32 and come out to the town dock and hip tow the Oday back.

The whole process including walking and opening the bridge twice would probably take about four hours. I still don't know how I would get the the oday in its slip without power as we have a neighbor.

I wonder if they would come back for 103.

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Trailing a tag line is one thing, but attaching a tether to someone free-diving beneath the boat is another... I don't like the idea at all, too great a chance of getting snagged on the running gear, or whatever...

...Unless you're a diver with full gear aboard, better stay within cell phone range of Sea Tow...

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Cell range. Yeah I see the :-). But honestly, any plan that requires outside help is not valid for anyone even tiny cruising ambitions. If you can't handle a snagged line, stick with day sailing. Heck, just where I sail, there is no diver or tow boat between Ocean City and Norfolk. If you have a problem, figure something out. Isn't that cruising?

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Re: Clearing lobster pot tangle

+1 on the hook knife. Take the blade protector with you and get in the dinghy. It's easier from the dinghy especially if someone can use another boat hook from the mother ship and push you off a bit. It's hard if not impossible to get at the,line or net from the mothership. It's hard to saw or cut when you are in the water and you really want to stay away from the hook knife. Safer from the dinghy. Tie the dinghy painter as far forward on the boat as you can. Easier to keep the right distance from the boat to get a good angle.
Be kind. If you can use a piece to line to tie the pickup back to the trap once you're free. These are expensive and someone's source of livelihood.
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Re: Clearing lobster pot tangle

Another thing. Some times while you are in the dinghy you can take an anchor with you and drop it such as upon its tensioning you take part or all the stress off the tangled line and your running gear. Then much easier to untangle things. Can use the fortress, danforth or other light anchor to do this more easily.

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Re: Clearing lobster pot tangle

I once sucked a 12 ft long rug into my prop aperture at 2200rpm. A half hour with scuba gear later I found it was wrapped 16 times around the shaft.

Moral of the story? Not sure. Depending on how you read it it's either that you can't plan for all contingencies or its that you need scuba gear aboard to troubleshoot the under-half of your craft.

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I once sucked a 12 ft long rug into my prop aperture at 2200rpm. A half hour with scuba gear later I found it was wrapped 16 times around the shaft.

Moral of the story? Not sure. Depending on how you read it it's either that you can't plan for all contingencies or its that you need scuba gear aboard to troubleshoot the under-half of your craft.

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Re: Clearing lobster pot tangle

Sounds like for serious cruising a hooka would be a pretty useful piece of kit. No tanks, fun for the whole family and useful for keeping the bottom clean and emergency wraps.

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