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scream at another boat/sailor who was acting irresponsibly... read danger to others... ignoring the rules of the road? or just get out of their way?

I always do the later... but at times tell them they are asshats... thinking if no one tells them... they will definitely not think twice nor change their behavior. Why would they?

It makes no sense to report them to... who???? But heck they could have hit us if we didn't avoid them... and they weren't the only ones who did dumb...

How do you.. or do you bother with these idiots?
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I do a lot of my sailing during the week, thus avoiding a lot of folks. I learned a long time ago that me, "advising" anyone to do anything was like herding cats and I chose to NOT do it. Jump ahead to the world of today, and I try to NOT engage with anyone...just not worth it in so many ways. Then add back in the possible "impairment" available, legally to the other "operator" and I just don't see anything good coming of this.

Reporting them does no good, the regs are written so as to be un-enforceable, and my time is better spent moving along, recovering from their stupidity and staying safe.
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It's pointless.
You'll never convince one of these people that they've done anything wrong. Just get away from them as fast as possible and continue going about your day.
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scream at another boat/sailor who was acting irresponsibly... read danger to others... ignoring the rules of the road? or just get out of their way?

I always do the later... but at times tell them they are asshats... thinking if no one tells them... they will definitely not think twice nor change their behavior. Why would they?

It makes no sense to report them to... who???? But heck they could have hit us if we didn't avoid them... and they weren't the only ones who did dumb...

How do you.. or do you bother with these idiots?
Had one this Sunday...he clearly had no idea I was stand on and he was give way...he waved like we were long lost friends...I just took his stern and then returned to my original course and kept going. I may have muttered something but not loud enough to wake up the Admiral.
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It does no good to inform the jerks that they are being irresponsible jerks; I know from experience. It just makes me feel ineffective and foolish after the fact.
Mostly now it's situations where the jerks are trying to anchor way too close or pick up a mooring that is too close and they may hit me. No amount of reasoning seems to help, but an offhand request for the name of their insurance carrier as they head up into the wind to drop their anchor or pick up the mooring, often does produce the desired effect.
If they just absolutely insist on being where the two boats may collide, I will drop by in the dink and calmly inform them, as the law requires, that I am informing them that in my opinion, as master of my vessel, they have endangered both vessels with their action. Then I leave, and most often so do they, in time.
Of course, another helpful item is our 4" S/S capped rub rail that pretty much runs the length of the boat. It seems to get more menacing each time the two boats swing close together and in a while they be gone.

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For those nearly close anchoring occasions ,an obligatory 12 ft pike pole wielded by a wild haired 6'7" skipper offering to fend off so don't worry proved pretty effective over the years.
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Which is why the rules of the old west were effective at reducing the number of fools who believed they were mainstream. An armed society is a polite society.
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Had one this Sunday...he clearly had no idea I was stand on and he was give way...he waved like we were long lost friends...I just took his stern and then returned to my original course and kept going. I may have muttered something but not loud enough to wake up the Admiral.
This past Friday I came across a group of young male adults (mid 20s) drifting with a fishing line extending from the back of their small boat in the middle of the entrance to the creek where my marina is located.

I'm glad I had enough water under the boat to get around them safely. No good saying anything as at that age they already know everything....

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It's not unlike finding a car in the left lane of a highway (in the US) that is driving below the speed limit, when that lane is specified for passing. They simply have no idea what the rules are.

Nevertheless, avoiding collisions is every Captain's responsibility, which is clearly the final rule. We're required to go around the morons.
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Many years ago, sailing in my neighborhood on starboard tack. Another boat on port with a big overlapping jib that no one is looking under headed on collision course. On board is a crew which included a very polite well spoken women who also is a great sailor who never had a harsh word for anyone. The picture of refinement.

Even though I'm on starboard, I decide it's prudent to duck the approaching boat. Our very polite, refined crew stands up on the cockpit seats and shouts out to the offending boat "starboard you b****" and then she noticed the port on the transom, and says "New York it figures!"

I don't think I've laughed harder than this ever.

No offense to you polite NY-ers. Understand that in NE, there are certain preconceived notions, probably goes back to the yankees - red sox but that's another story.

Yep, sailing confrontations evidently bring out the animal spirits even in the most passive individuals .
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