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Beware: Annapolis - Backcreek - Old 2E marker hazard

An acquaintance of mine who took delivery of a brand new 38' Jeanneau in the course of summer hit the remnants of Back Creek old 2E channel marker which was recently replaced and relocated around 100ft south of the previous location. The old 2E channel marker post is apparently still present with as little as 3' of water above. I took a look at an up-to-date Navionics chart (see attached screen grab) and indeed, the old 2E is identified as a submerged hazard. Since this all happened in the last few weeks, I doubt many people are aware of this. This is a very heavily traveled body of water and I can't believe that old marker post was left under water. I hope the USCG takes care of this soon.
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Re: Beware: Annapolis - Backcreek - Old 2E marker hazard

Nothing mentioned on Actives Captain nor USCG 5th District 'Notices to Mariners' concerning this...
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Re: Beware: Annapolis - Backcreek - Old 2E marker hazard

Actually, someone posted something on active captain... It did 30k of damage to the boat of the guy who reported it to me and cut his sailing season short

https://forums.sailboatowners.com/in...-creek.187606/

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Re: Beware: Annapolis - Backcreek - Old 2E marker hazard

Active Captain is not and should not be the "be all, end all" of marine navigation.
I do agree that the NTM wording is less than helpful.

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Re: Beware: Annapolis - Backcreek - Old 2E marker hazard

You are correct, in that this hazard has not yet been added to ActiveCaptain (screenshot below). And Ajax_MD is correct in that ActiveCaptain is not the final word on hazards to navigation. However, ActiveCaptain is a useful tool for many, and this is an opportunity for either of the skippers that have discovered the hazard to enter it into the database. It is a source of information used by whichever organization it is that produces charts to update the charts. I will not, as I have not personally encountered this hazard.
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Actually, someone posted something on active captain... It did 30k of damage to the boat of the guy who reported it to me and cut his sailing season short

https://forums.sailboatowners.com/in...-creek.187606/
Just checked again on my Garmin 'Blue Charts' with an Active Captains account that automatically updates every 15 mins...nada.. Only shows a shoaling advisory for Back Creek Inlet dated 2015-11-30.

Nothing around or in the vacinity of the current ?2E?,F R 2.5s 15ft 4M.

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Re: Beware: Annapolis - Backcreek - Old 2E marker hazard

The hazard was added to Navionics online charts Sept 20. Here.
https://webapp.navionics.com/?lang=e...y=swylF%60awqM

I now know of two accounts of sailors who have hit the old marker and the one report for a 37' Beneteau from 8/19 mentioned several crew injuries. I think this should be taken very seriously by both, sailors and local authorities.

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Good report Zoya. Much appreciated !!
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Re: Beware: Annapolis - Backcreek - Old 2E marker hazard

Another screen shot, this time from PolarView NS which is (was?) linked to my ActiveCaptain Account. You can see that the hazard was clearly marked.

ActiveCaptain just cut over to Garmin's servers last week. Perhaps they have lost some information in the transition.
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Re: Beware: Annapolis - Backcreek - Old 2E marker hazard

More importantly it should be reported to the USCG as the most recent(41-17) Notices do not reflect this potential discrepancy..

https://www.navcen.uscg.gov/pdf/lnms/lnm05412017.pdf

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