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Re: Chain Snubber "tell tale"

If you boat shears about at anchor in high winds the snubber can chafe on the stem fitting or dolphin striker. Shiva dances about so I do have a problem with possible chafe on rub rail trim and bolts of the stem fitting anchor roller.... leading the line over the roller eliminates this chafe. YMMV

A snuuber without the compensator works fine. You can't SEE if there is tension. And you can SEE if your are dragging as you can with the compensator.

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Why not? Don't you think that another inch or two of elasticity in the dock lines is a good thing, to lower the load on that hardware (cleats and stuff)?
Honestly, I really don't think they do all that much but twist the line when under extreme strain. But I have never used one, I've never been curious either.

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Honestly, I really don't think they do all that much but twist the line when under extreme strain. But I have never used one, I've never been curious either.
The compensator is EDM rubber which can stretch a bit and is of course elastic. I do not know the rating... that is how much elongation per unit of force.

My personal experience is that under increased load they DO stretch a few inches. Nylon also stretches. And I don't know how much it stretches per unit load.

I do know that I CAN'T SEE the nylon line stretch as it visually appears the same as the force increases.

I also know that I CAN SEE the compensator stretch when the forces INCREASE.

I also noticed that if you have a poor set and you are dragging... you can't SEE any changes in the standard nylon snubber. So you can back down and drag and not be able to tell from the snubber... unless the boat springs back forward... something hard to see from the helm. I CAN see the compensator unwind with the engine in reverse when I look at it from the bow.

If you have no visual reference it is hard to visually determine if you are dragging.

I will also leave plotter on and it creates a "blob" of compact bread crumbs if the anchor is set. As the wind shifts the blob becomes an arc.

I find the snubber is a good way to see if the anchor is set.. and I can sleep comfortably without getting up to check during the night.

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I find the snubber is a good way to see if the anchor is set.. and I can sleep comfortably without getting up to check during the night.
Since I got the Rocna, I haven't dragged once in something like 1000+ anchorings, even to 60 knots in a blow that had lots of others scrambling.
As I've stated before, not being a fan of 'new gen' anchors, almost every time we dropped it for the first year or so, we'd dive on it. It rarely dragged its own length before it would turn and set.
We haven't gotten up to check our anchor during the night for over two years
Most of my sleepless nights are from some other guys' anchoring ability, not ours.
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Re: Chain Snubber "tell tale"

I am using the original 36# CQR which came with the boat. I made my snubber when I added chain about 28 years ago... and I can't remember a time when I dragged. I have snagged some cables though in Newport. SO this works fine for me and I DO worry about other boats dragging on me... and I can't do anything about that but anchor far from them or move when they anchor upwind of me. I am thinking about a new anchor.

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I made my snubber when I added chain about 28 years ago..
We change our snub line every 8 months to a year, but it does get a lot of use. We find the line gets hard and loses its elasticity after some time, especially down here in the tropical sun. Perhaps that's why you feel you need extra elasticity in your snub line.
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