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Trans Atlantic Passages Voyages East or West. Planning, Routes etc

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Trans Atlantic 2020 Nov/Dec East to West ARC or No ARC

I'm probably doing Canaries to Caribbean in November 2020 and I know at least one other on Sailnet doing it so thought this could be a good place to get together to discuss methods, routes etc...

and to be able to connect for a beer!!


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Re: Trans Atlantic 2020 Nov/Dec East to West ARC or No ARC

The 2020 Sailnet Las Palmas Rendezvous ?

As I indicated in the other thread - We are also planning to head across this year.

My wife was initially quite keen on joining the ARC . Her point of view was great socialisation for the kids and the festival experience. I guess the weather routing and scheds are also of some benefit.

To this end we were considering Jimmy Cornells 'Atlantic Odyssey'. An 'ARC lite' rally if you like, intended in the spirit in which Jimmy started the original ARC. Less cost, Less multimillion dollar super yachts, less red tape. However this has been discontinued

So after looking at the significant cost of the ARC and my general distaste for doing things in big groups while playing by other peoples rules we have moved away from the idea.

I also want to be able to pick our own departure date, potentially a bit later.
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Re: Trans Atlantic 2020 Nov/Dec East to West ARC or No ARC

Im starting in London but leaving from Cherbourg France to the Canaries.

I've done the trans Atlantic twice before. Both from the Canaries, one to Brazil and the other to the Caribbean. So I was kinda thinking of doing the ARC just for fun... but then read the requirement (there are many!) the liferaft must be SOLAS where mine is Offshore plus added water, food etc attached to make it SOLAS but but not with the sticker. Im not paying an extra $3k for a new raft when mine is 2 years old.

The last time I did trans-atl to the Caribbean I left the day after the ARC. Actually the weather was good and I would have gone on the day of the ARC but I made a fundamental error and wasn't refuelled... the gas station was closed to everyone except ARC boats!

Only other bit to be aware is the marina at las Palmas is booked out for the ARC. But the anchorage there is very close and fine.

Its all great fun and a great vibe no matter if you are in the ARC or not.
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Re: Trans Atlantic 2020 Nov/Dec East to West ARC or No ARC

Several years back I contacted the ARC officials about just doing the social aspects of the TransAt ARC and not the sail with the crowd and they quoted me a price. Like you Mark, having done numerous TransAts, I really don't feel the need to have someone go over my boat and do a safety check or for weather advice from anyone, but the parties sounded fun. Also, the thought of setting off with a huge crowd of mostly inexperienced sailors who feel there's safety in numbers on an ocean crossing, sends shivers down my spine.

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Re: Trans Atlantic 2020 Nov/Dec East to West ARC or No ARC

There are other marinas to jump off from.... Porto Rico and Porto Mogan... in Gran Canaria...

Some see sailing at the same time as a rally offers them some element of safety.

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Some see sailing at the same time as a rally offers them some element of safety.
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Some see sailing at the same time as a rally offers them some element of safety.

I am sure some do.

However most want to leave at that particular time for one very strong reason: They want to be in the Caribbean by Christmas.


You really can't leave it a week later and still get there, have a few days to relax, and to pull on the Santa suit.
The ARC leaves between the 20th and 22nd of November. Its a 3 week passage for my size boat if you get wind. No wind and I took 30 days once.

3 weeks and you hit somewhere in the Caribbean about the 15th of December... thats just a few days to re-position, fly in-fly out crew and family; pre-provision; relax after making landfall takes a few days.

Yes, I know we should not be time scheduled, but its a safe trip (as far as safe goes) its not bounded by storms as such, but starts when the light weather is replaced with tradewinds.

I can imagine having Christmas at sea. Not the party that I like

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Prudent sailor does a passage based upon weather... not calendar holidays. If you want to party at xmas... start look to depart beginning of November.

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Prudent sailor does a passage based upon weather... not calendar holidays. If you want to party at xmas... start look to depart beginning of November.
As I said, you can not physically depart earlier in November. Their aint no wind. None. Zilch. Nada.



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Re: Trans Atlantic 2020 Nov/Dec East to West ARC or No ARC

As Mark eluded the .......the Trades still haven't quite filled in.

But the passage is not in any way inherently 'unsafe' that time of year. We all make decisions to head on passage for complicated and varying reasons. Santa is as good as any I guess.

The other reason to get going in November, If you are then going to continue on to the Pacific (We don't know if we will yet) is you do kinda need to keep moving. Caribbean by Christmas makes sense to get a few months cruising in (And boat fixing) before you head to Panama to get into the Pacific in April.....so you can get to Australia or New Zealand by November!

Hey Mark, Have you ever thought about stopping at Cape Verde?

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