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Re: Singlehanding a UP 36

Blowing like snot and rough, and need to up anchor, is when the windlass is much appreciated.
On 2 occassions ive elected to cut tje rolling hitch on the snubber...safer to get it up right away and motor away.

If you are solo, anything that helps...is good.
In my mind, lee shore might get closer the less help onboard...
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I have used the anchor which came with the boat... 36# CQR for 34 years very successfully. I upgraded the nylon rode to all chain and windlass.
I used a genuine CQR for at least that many years and was quite satisfied with it most of the time. Occasionally I'd need to re-anchor several times and on the rarest occasions, I'd drag a bit.
In Bequia, there are a couple of chutes with a few inches of sand on a flat coral bottom. Since they are nice open spots, newbies will try to anchor there and of course, fail. We call it the afternoon drag fest and it has nothing to do with guys in dresses.
Anyway, while I'm sitting comfortably on my genuine CQR, one day this boat comes in and drops his gear in one of these chutes and hooks! I waited for the anchor to drag, but it didn't. So I jump in my dink and ask him what anchor he is using. It was the first time I'd heard of the Rocna, but in general, I had been ignoring the move toward the 'next-gen' anchors. After all, what is anchoring but tossing a bunch of heavy metal overboard and letting it do its thing? However, now I was intrigued and began researching. End result was that if I wanted a Rocna, we were gonna have to lean out our expenditures for a few months.
And then fortune smiled upon us and we found a lightly used one (88#, just right for our boat) for a quarter of the new price.
For a year we dove on that anchor and it was a rare day when it didn't set in its own length. It never drug more than about three feet once it had set, just getting deeper till the bar was hidden.
And just to top the experience off, we squeezed into a tiny hole in a very crowded new year's day crowd in Clifton Harbor, Union Island, but the chain got hung up in the pipe and I was left standing on the foredeck thinking of all the disasters that were about to befall us because we only had 60 feet of chain out in 40 feet of water in 20 knots of wind. But almost before I had run through the first scenario of bouncing off both boats behind us, Skipping Stone swung bow to wind and remained where she was until Nikki could free the chain. Boy was I relieved AND impressed.
Over the years we have been shortening up our scope to 3:1 and it has been extremely helpful in the crowded season anchorages, but we still have yet to drag in anything up to 60 knots or so.
I loved my genuine CQRs, but do believe there is something to this 'next-gen' anchor thing now.
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Ummmm, I just used less words CAPTA [emoji854]

BUT, everybody should have at least two anchors I think can all agree on that? And the OP wasn't just about anchoring.
I would have to agree that we should carry multiple anchors aboard if one is cruising, but my #1 is still the largest of all 5 of my setups.
I don't have a lot of input to offer on a smaller boat like the OP is talking about, but in my experience, even operating a vessel of 80 feet or more with 2 crew isn't much different from operating something in the 45-foot range except that the bigger the boat the more time you have, as mentioned above. So I would assume that holds true when moving up in smaller boats. But you know what they say about assuming.....lol

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Cap... I have heard only good reports on next gen anchors. I will definitely get one if where I typically anchor changes. However I am anchoring in LIS, and Southern NE and the CQR seems to work fine. I will use 5:1 scope typically. The snubber I use with a mooring compensator is very effective because it will SHOW the tension of a set anchor rode when the wind pipes up a bit. Without the compensator the snubber simply will stretch a bit or... if dragging doesn't stretch and it's not very obvious. The snubber's compensator is the tell if the anchor has set.

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The snubber's compensator is the tell if the anchor has set.
First I've heard of the snubber compensator. I'll have to check it out. Thanks.

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First I've heard of the snubber compensator. I'll have to check it out. Thanks.
For a chain hook I use a ss reefing tack hook... slips right into the chain links. Snubber line is 3/4" or 1" braid on braid nylon.. compensator has 2 or 3 twists. Under tension you can see it untwist. A snubber under tensions does not show a thing... just a taut line. A dragging anchor with a snubber with show a taught line. a dragging anchor with a snubber will show no tension "unwinding".

The unwinding of the compensator is the tell that the anchor has set and under tension.
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For a chain hook I use a ss reefing tack hook... slips right into the chain links. Snubber line is 3/4" or 1" braid on braid nylon.. compensator has 2 or 3 twists. Under tension you can see it untwist. A snubber under tensions does not show a thing... just a taut line. A dragging anchor with a snubber with show a taught line. a dragging anchor with a snubber will show no tension "unwinding".

The unwinding of the compensator is the tell that the anchor has set and under tension.
Cool. I'll check it out though by now I have very few worries about dragging. We use a standard chain hook, SS or galvanized. Seems to do the trick.

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Cap... I have heard only good reports on next gen anchors. I will definitely get one if where I typically anchor changes. However I am anchoring in LIS, and Southern NE and the CQR seems to work fine. I will use 5:1 scope typically. The snubber I use with a mooring compensator is very effective because it will SHOW the tension of a set anchor rode when the wind pipes up a bit. Without the compensator the snubber simply will stretch a bit or... if dragging doesn't stretch and it's not very obvious. The snubber's compensator is the tell if the anchor has set.
Well, someone just reminded me that we/ve had this conversation a year or so ago. I'm sorry, just getting forgetful in my old age I guess. Not intending to be pushy. And I guess I had the date wrong this time in Clifton, I guess it was Dec 31.

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Re: Singlehanding a UP 36

Ask 20 different sailors about anchoring and you'll get 20 different answers.
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