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Re: Dog that went overboard 3 miles out to sea found alive on beach

Jeeze--

I come back here and find an uproar still going on because some Putz has a hard-on for something referring to someone "praying" for the life, safety of their dog. Ya gotta be kidding!?!

I posted the story as I found it quite touching. We lost our own dog of 14+ years to incurable kidney disease on April 17th. It was a profound loss as she was a particularly sweet dog that was originally our daughter's, picked out by our daughter when she was 11 and, in some respects, our last material connection to our daughter's childhood. We would have given anything to have been able to save "Bitsey" (so known as because when our daughter picked her out she was just "...a little bitsey puppy Daddy"). When I saw the story, I thought of our Bitsey and thought it was very touching and I was happy for the young man that had been so distressed at his supposed loss. Frankly, I did not read the entire story regarding his prayers but could easily understand his sentiments and thankfulness if I had initially.

That someone has a problem with that--or feels that it is somehow 'religious propaganda' of sorts--is unfortunate but likely reveals much about the party. In fact, those that I have know to have become the most vociferous "anti-religionists" are often those that, earlier in their lives at some point, prayed fervently for some blessing or another that was not bestowed. Their disappointment/anger at not having their prayers answered manifests in their subsequent hostile/anti-religious posture.

N'any case. I'm glad the young man got his dog back and I'm glad that at least some can vicariously share and enjoy his joy in the event. As for the others? Who really cares, eh?

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My tip to everybody is that if you are offended when somebody ridicules religious propaganda, then don't post religious propaganda
This wasnít propaganda, which by definition is promoting a point of view. It was just a dude with his belief that made no effort to convince anyone else. You seem to lack understanding of the difference and display extraordinary intolerance.

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Let me ask you: if that that story didn't involved praying and apparent answers to the prayers, would it have been newsworthy?
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IOW, if an unknown man had made a video with just an himself telling a tale of how his dog got swept overboard and then she swam/was washed ashore a few miles down the coast from where his boat had been towed, but no mention of a god, would you have posted it?
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Or consider another scenario where the man had praised Allah - would you have posted that?
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Would either of those stories garner a TV news segment
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Try to be honest with yourselves.
Look up the definition or irony, seeing as you didnít understand the word propaganda.
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It sounds like it was a really good rat and I'd be really pissed if somebody killed my pet rat. I don't see what the problem was. If it didn't show signs of rabies after a week, give it a rabies vaccination and get it a pink rhinestone collar.
In the photographs it looked more like one of these and was about the size of a small rat terrier to my eye but I believe it would be highly unlikely unless one escaped from a zoo. If it was anywhere near to a close or even distant relative I do not believe it would have made a good pet plus imagine trying to get license and registration so you could bring it in to the physical USA on a Commercial Airline:
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In the photographs it looked more like one of these and was about the size of a small rat terrier to my eye but I believe it would be highly unlikely unless one escaped from a zoo. If it was anywhere near to a close or even distant relative I do not believe it would have made a good pet plus imagine trying to get license and registration so you could bring it in to the physical USA on a Commercial Airline:
Someone thought that was a dog???? Gimmeabreak!!!!!!!!!!!

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Brothers and Sisters, let us join our hands together and pray for our dear brother JWing.....
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Gery, Good story about the cat. He came back. (Yes, the cat came back, the very next day. The cat came back, they thought he was a goner. Yes, the cat came back, the very next day .....)

I thought the story of the dog swimming 3 miles and being reunited with his human was pretty cool. Very newsworthy. Thanking God is pretty common in lots of societies. I don't particularly care either way, but I thought Jwings comments were, shall I say, less than polite.
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You found it touching; so what if I found it to be pablum? What is your problem with that? Of course, the religious will be over-sensitive, and of course they will immediately resort to personal attacks based on their own imaginary facts about me. (BTW - great entertainment guys, I'm LMAO at your "outrage.")

Maybe it was the sinking boat angle that made it newsworthy, but many, many boats sink all the time and don't get mentioned on the TV news or even sailing forums. It can't be the dog story. Dogs get lost every day. Some are lost forever, some get returned; the great majority of cases do not get covered by the news media.

Actually, the story in question had two cherries...histronics and an Evangelical message, both caught on camera.
The 'problem' isn't that you considered it Pablum; the problem is that you labeled it religious propaganda.

The story wasn't built around the dog owner's beliefs. They were an addendum, rather than being the point of it. Maybe you should chill a little, and grant those whose beliefs you disagree with some space.
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I didn't ask if you enjoyed the story. I did ask if you think it would have made the local TV news or this website if there had been no weepy mention of God, or if the dog had been saved by Allah.
Yes, I do think it would've made the local news. I've seen plenty of reports over the years about dogs that were lost somehow and made it home... It's a pretty standard feel-good genre.
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I neither said nor intimated that which you have postulated about me. Therefore, it appears that the remarkably narrow-focused lens belongs to you.
I think your post spoke volumes; it was hardly just an obscure 'intimation'.

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Someone thought that was a dog???? Gimmeabreak!!!!!!!!!!!
Well TakeFive, in today's society with all the rampant helmet shaming we see increased occurrence of severe head injuries, this family clearly should have worn more helmets.

On separate note let's all stop feeding the de-railing comments from earlier. I don't think we are getting anywhere beneficial anymore lol.

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