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This is hyper-local and not in the Great Lakes watershed, but there's a lot of water in Minnesota too. The little lake I keep my boat on empties into Minnehaha Creek, which forms Minnehaha Falls (of Longfellow's Song of Hiawatha fame), and the water flow has been over three times the median value all spring. We're soggy.
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This is hyper-local and not in the Great Lakes watershed, but there's a lot of water in Minnesota too. The little lake I keep my boat on empties into Minnehaha Creek, which forms Minnehaha Falls (of Longfellow's Song of Hiawatha fame), and the water flow has been over three times the median value all spring. We're soggy.
That is a lot of change...now imagine that over an entire region, and you understand why the levels are what they are. Checking our local forecast this morning show rain for 5 out of the next 6 days...my boat is going to float right off the stands if this keeps up...ok not really but you get my drift.

Minne….On a quick sidestep, how is the new daysailer working out for the club that you picked up here in Michigan, has anyone taken it out yet??


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That is a lot of change...now imagine that over an entire region, and you understand why the levels are what they are. Checking our local forecast this morning show rain for 5 out of the next 6 days...my boat is going to float right off the stands if this keeps up...ok not really but you get my drift.
Yeah, there’s a bike path along the Mississippi that I sometimes take to work. Usually in the spring it gets covered by a foot or two of water and is impassable for a couple weeks. This year it was under eight feet of water and has been closed for over a month.

I have a friend with a 50’ power boat. She had to scramble to launch it early this year, because the storage yard at the marina was going to be underwater.

I’m reading about flooding downstream in Illinois and Mississippi and Louisiana and I’m thinking “keep your sandbags up, we’re sending a bunch more water your way.”



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Minne….On a quick sidestep, how is the new daysailer working out for the club that you picked up here in Michigan, has anyone taken it out yet??
They put it in on the 11th, but I was out of town and wasn’t able to help. I know they’ve gotten a couple sails in and it sounds like it’s been great, but I haven’t been able to get to it. I hoping to try it out on Saturday. I don’t think anyone has dared test the spinnaker yet Thanks for asking!

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This all sounds quite serious. Here is another take on the problem - at least in marinas that can still function:
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This all sounds quite serious. Here is another take on the problem - at least in marinas that can still function:...........
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What Arcb said. In Chicago, they announced a 2-year plan about two years ago, to mitigate climate change. New paving is supposed to be done with a porous concrete, which will allow rainwater to seep directly into the ground instead of pooling or running off and flooding low areas. But, porous concrete and other "simple" solutions cost money.
In the last decade as home prices have come back up, every bit of lowland and swamp has been built up, minimal money spent on anything out of sight (like drainage) and between that and a slight weather shift, any plans the ACE made for flood control 50 years ago are totally trashed.
I expect large parts of the US south and east coast will become like Bangladesh: Places that should have been left as swamp, but the only places that poor people could afford to go. So, they will perennially be flooded out. Chicago raised their downtown street level one whole story after the Chicago Fire, to elevate it out of the swamp. Seattle did the same thing in what is now Old Town and Underground Seattle. And apparently Chattanooga did something similar after the Civil War, that's mainly undocumented.
These days people expect the Federal Funding Fairy will pay for it all, but they're getting rude surprises. And this is nothing new, really. There are towns, cities, in Europe that were great ports in the middle ages--and now are miles from the shore. Some continue as vigorous towns. Others, like Venice, are having to make hard choices today.
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....... And this is nothing new, really. There are towns, cities, in Europe that were great ports in the middle ages--and now are miles from the shore. Some continue as vigorous towns. Others, like Venice, are having to make hard choices today.
You’re exactly right. It start arguments, when this point is made. The shoreline will continue to change. Period. Plan for it, stop kidding ourselves we’ll stop it. Slowing down the inevitable is best case and still the odds are strongly against even pulling that off.
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It's not just the Great Lakes. This drydocked WWII submarine floated off it's stands..in Oklahoma of all places.



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