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PolarView (was: Alpha testers wanted)

G'day all!

A brand new ENC (vector) chart navigation application for Windows and MacOS is looking for alpha testers. If you are interested in navigation, software and have a bit of a daredevil in you - apply here.

This is a first attempt at letting anyone not related to the product take a look. To be sure, application is far from complete (it is, essentially, an ENC viewer). If you try it, you *will* encounter bugs - this is the nature of Alpha stage products.

We are looking for your feedback. It is still very early in development cycle and your feedback will most certainly have a real and significant impact on direction the project takes.

We know that more features are missing than can be counted. What we are looking for in particular is feedback on the features that are currently in the product. Some of the areas that need an outside expert user look are:
- Chart display correctness.
- Chart color and symbol selection and readability.
- Operation on various hardware and OS platforms.

The application is currently available for Win32 (Windows 2000/XP, potentially Vista, we are looking for Vista testers) and Mac OS (Intel only, no PowerPC support) 10.5 Leopard (10.4 Tiger needs testers as well).

If you like what you read and want to risk it - visit download area at Polar Navy . Download is "by invitation" and access keyword is ALPHA1.

Thanks all :)

P.S. The installation package does not include any charts. Charts in ENC format can be downloaded from NOAA web site at Electronic Navigational Charts: NOAA ENCs®. Download ENC charts, place them in any location on your hard drive and use File->Open menu item to open ENC chart files. The primary ENC chart file that needs to be selected is the one with extension .000.
Documentation will be available shortly - pardon the dust.
 

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I love looking at software like this just for fun so I tried downloading it but for some reason my screen is just black when I opened it on my mac which is set up with leopard. Any help?????
 

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I love looking at software like this just for fun so I tried downloading it but for some reason my screen is just black when I opened it on my mac which is set up with leopard. Any help?????
One thing that is missing is a README file :) We are working on it (but this will count as feedback number 1 :) ).

The software does not include any charts. Charts in S57 ENC format are available from NOAA website here: Electronic Navigational Charts: NOAA ENCs®

Once you download an ENC cell, use File->Open menu to open it. Something should appear on your screen. If it does not - that would be feedback item number 2.
 

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I'll have a go at it when I get home tonight... sounds interesting and I love breaking things :)

I encourage a Linux version!
Linux version may come later. It is technically possible (and verified to work under controlled conditions) but challenging to maintain due to variety of available versions and distributions of Linux. If it will happen, it will probably be a few iterations later, when (if) we get through Alpha and Beta towards production release.
 

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K after playing around a little bit the NOAA charts aren't too detailed in the viewer. I do have the way zoomed out version but I thought they would still have some sort of labels.....heres a couple screen shots. The first one is after I downloaded all of the charts....too much space so I deleted then the second one is pretty much New England. Map Water Water resources Ecoregion Atlas


Map Water Text Ecoregion Water resources
 

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K after playing around a little bit the NOAA charts aren't too detailed in the viewer. I do have the way zoomed out version but I thought they would still have some sort of labels.....heres a couple screen shots. The first one is after I downloaded all of the charts....too much space so I deleted then the second one is pretty much New England. View attachment 3276

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What chart is this? There are a number of chart levels with more or less detail. This looks like an overview chart of east coast and Long Island area. It is not particularly detailed, especially in coastal areas.

Somewhat more detail will appear as you zoom in, but this particular chart probably won't get a lot more interesting. For smaller scale (more detailed) charts select those that have names beginning with US5.
 

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Brak, any maps of Europe? Portugal and Spain?

If there are I will be interested.

Thanks
ENC charts are available for pretty much the entire world. While S57 format is the same the world over, essentially all countries other than US use encrypted version of the format. To support the encryption, application product must apply to IHO for specific per-product keys, and add custom implementation of key management and decryption module. This does require certain level of stability from the product and is on our schedule.

To be sure, ENC charts outside US are encrypted for a reason - they are only available for purchase. There are no free ENC downloads outside NOAA that we know of, except for a single ENC test cell of a small part of Great Barrier Reef :), made available by Australian hydrographic office specifically for ENC testing.

Follow this link ( " + theTitle + " ) to the application that shows global ENC chart coverage.
 

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I just downloaded the software....and I'm installing it tomorrow...:)
 

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K just tested the us5 chart and it was still just outlines and no depths or symbols. Since I have time and space on my computer I downloaded another enc viewer and viewed the exact same chart in it here's what I got so it isn't getting the symbols and depths for some reason.....unless it's just me. Map Water Text Ecoregion Atlas


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K just tested the us5 chart and it was still just outlines and no depths or symbols. Since I have time and space on my computer I downloaded another enc viewer and viewed the exact same chart in it here's what I got so it isn't getting the symbols and depths for some reason.....unless it's just me. View attachment 3278

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What scale (zoom level) are you using to view this chart? Look at the bottom of the screen ("status bar"), the second item shows "scale". How does the display change as you go down to smaller scale? Also, what is the name of this chart cell?

If the nav symbols/items etc do not appear as you zoom in further, we may have a first reported bug.
 

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I started at 1:15000 and went all the way to about 1:2000 nothing changed just zoomed into outlines and if you mean viewer for "chart cell" I am using mac enc for the other one. Heres a link MacENC™ - Marine Navigation & Charting Application for OS X
If you mean chart set it is #US5NY14M oyster bay - eatons neck
It should show quite a bit of detail at scales of anywhere from 50000 down to the smallest one. So, it is a first real issue. I have sent you a pm - if you don't mind forward us some information about your system.
 

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Hey brak... I just started playing around and I'm noticing that cells aren't visible at all levels of zoom.

I've got US3WA01M and US3WA02M loaded. At the "overview scale" (1:1600000), I see a black screen with the cells outlined in red and the labels on gray backgrounds. Only when I zoom in to 1:4000000 do I actually see any chart. As I zoom in I get increasing levels of detail, which is great... but there should at least be some sort of sea/land displayed at the smaller scales.

Also could we have depths in fathoms please? :)

edit: the "smallest scale of visibility" seems to be different for different cells...
 

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What is visible is probably dependent on what zoom level you're at and what the scale of the charts you're over are at.
Hey brak... I just started playing around and I'm noticing that cells aren't visible at all levels of zoom.

I've got US3WA01M and US3WA02M loaded. At the "overview scale" (1:1600000), I see a black screen with the cells outlined in red and the labels on gray backgrounds. Only when I zoom in to 1:4000000 do I actually see any chart. As I zoom in I get increasing levels of detail, which is great... but there should at least be some sort of sea/land displayed at the smaller scales.

Also could we have depths in fathoms please? :)

edit: the "smallest scale of visibility" seems to be different for different cells...
 
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