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Not unexpected for the state of MD which already has the 4th highest taxes in the entire country.
Since revenue income is down due to the economic depression one would think that government would curtail such expenses in proportion to economic decline ... instead it exacerbates economic decline by further PARASITIZING from its resident PREY SPECIES.
 

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$250 a year "registration" for a 36'r? At least in VA personal property tax is based on boat value and goes down as the boat ages and its value declines.

Lucky for me I only need to stay in MD waters 1 more year to be ahead on the use tax I paid to MD when I moved vs. the PP tax I would have paid VA if I'd stayed in VA.

So, I'll just move back to VA waters and be no worse off, if this becomes reality. I miss Deltaville anyway, and would rather pay PP tax in VA than an exhorbitant registration fee in MD.

It amazes me how politicians think nothing will change when they propose increasing the tax on a highly moveable asset by 20 times. (Correction I thought the fee was every year but it reamains every 2 years so ONLY a 10 times increase)
I think if they do this it will decimate MD boating industry.
 

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Get out the KY you rich boaters--here it comes!

After reading the article link it's apparent that government does what it always does--screws the tax payers. Bob Gaudette, director of Maryland DNR's Boating Service talked about all these wonderful projects. He talked of keeping the waterways ice free during the winter. WHAT! Are you kidding me? The only ice breaking done by DNR is done for commercial fishing interests--not recreational boaters. Recreational boaters have their boats on the hard this time of year and that's where they've been since cold weather set in. But, Gaudette thinks we should pay for this folly.

The article goes on to say "The projects include maintaining thousands of buoys, markers and signs; maintaining 265 public boating channels; keeping channels free of ice in the winter; having Natural Resources Police conduct boating safety checks; removing abandoned boats; and maintaining public boating facilities."

Lets put things in perspective. Those public boating facilities he talks about maintaining are already being funded by a couple of hefty fees. Daily launch fees have skyrocketed at all state parks and county ramps. $7 to $10 per launch is the going rate, and if you look at the parking lot at the ramp of Sandy Point State Park you'll be hard pressed to find a parking spot on busy weekends. This parking lot covers several acres and even the access road is sometimes jammed with parked vehicles and boat trailers. And, be realistic Mr Gaudette--how much does the state spend each year on those concrete slabs that have been silting in for three decades? I've been covering this circuit for nearly 40 years and have yet to see a single ramp being maintained by DNR or a sub contractor. Are these people only working at night?

Removing abandoned boats? Sure, everyone knows a marina with a dozen or more abandoned boats, but DNR doesn't pay for their removal--the marina owner does. How many abandoned boats does DNR remove annually Mr Gaudette? I've only seen a handfull of abandoned boats in my life that were on state or federal properties, and they are all still where they were 30 years ago. Guess DNR must have missed these.

Gaudette says DNR maintains thousands of markers, buoys and signs. To begin with, I seriously doubt that DNR has thousands of buoys, and if they did, what does the maintenance entail? Powerwashing? Same holds true for markers and signs. On the Susquehanna River, when the hurricane washed the 6-MPH buoys downriver to the flats, they stayed there until the following spring when the ice flows carried them down the bay somewhere never to be seen again. They were never replaced. Guess the buoy maintenance crew never got the message.;)

And finally, DNR police need to conduct safety checks. Yeah--right! In more than 60 years of plying the waters of Chesapeake Bay I've been checked by DNR Police (NRP) three times. And, NRP has NEVER conducted a safety check on any of the dozen or more vessels I've owned. I did get checked twice in a single day, though. This was when I had an 18-foot Starcraft Mariner powered with a 75-HP Johnson Outboard, a nice, fast, center-console boat that had lots of room for fishing. I was fishing for white perch near the mouth of Fairlee Creek and had my 14-year-old daughter and two of her high-school friends with me at the time. It was a hot day in early June, the weather was beautiful, the winds were calm and the fish were not cooperating. The girls were all wearing bikinis about the size of Band-Aids. The girls spent more time swimming than fishing, and of course waving to the guys passing close enough for a peek at the gals. Next thing you know, there's a 17-foot Boston Whaler rolling down the bay that makes an abrupt turn and heads for our boat. The two guys on the boat didn't look much older than the girls, asked if we were catching any fish, to which I responded no! The asked to look in the cooler chest, which we allowed them to do, asked if there were enough PFDs onboard and I pointed to the PFD bag. They never checked anything. However, two hours later, another 17-foot Whaler shows up asking the same questions and ogling the gals. When we got back to the ramp at Gunpowder State Park, the park rangers couldn't do enough to help the ladies out of the boat.

The only other time I saw an NRP officer was at Point Lookout State Park. He asked if I was catching anything, I told him no, and he walked back to his car and left the ramp. The only people that have EVER done a REAL safety inspection of any boat I've owned has been the Coast Guard Auxiliary. They do an outstanding job and don't receive a dime for their efforts, though they do accept donations. They checked the boat from stem to stern, top to bottom, made recommendations, were extremely thorough and very courteous.

Gaudette says DNR maintains 256 public boating channels. I find that absolutely amazing. I've never seen a DNR dredge boat working anywhere in the entire state of Maryland during my entire life--NONE! Of course, they may sub contract the work out to private contractors, but if this is the case, how about providing us with a list of channels DNR has dredged during the past decade Mr Gaudette. Now, I see the Chesapeake's main shipping channel being maintained by the feds, which is an ongoing project that never seems to end. The channels leading to the state park ramps, however, are all pretty much silted in and I have yet to see one being dredged. Take a good look at the ditch leading from the bay into Sandy Point State Park's massive launch facility--it's pretty darned shallow these days. The same holds true for Gunpowder State Park, Susquehanna State Park, Point Lookout State Park, and nearly every state park launch ramp in the state.

Gaudette, like every high-ranking DNR official, claims he can fix all these things if you just give him more money--lots of money. Mr Gaudette should learn to live within his means. I for one intend to fight this piece of legislation with every means at my disposal. I will be contacting every state senator and delegate via email, letters and telephone calls to tell them to defeat this legislation. If they get enough calls, letters and emails the legislation will go down the tubes, which is where it should be--in the crapper!

Thanks to the OP for this information,

Gary :cool:
 

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What the [expletive of your choice] does this mean?

The fees would apply to boats that aren’t registered in Maryland, but are state-documented vessels because they are primarily used here.
 

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What the [expletive of your choice] does this mean?

The fees would apply to boats that aren’t registered in Maryland, but are state-documented vessels because they are primarily used here.
I'm guessing it is typical poor journalism that means federally documented boats with an MD state address.
 

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This issue makes me think of NYS and the occupy nonsense. Everyone hates Wallstreet. Those b--tards make too much money. Regulate them, take thier bonuses away....... Get em. Low and behold, it started to work. Wallstreet made less money. Wait a minute! How did income tax revenue decline so much? Duh! Now they're trying to refill the hole by taxing someone else.

Rich people stink, but when they stop paying the boating bills in MD, apparently anyone left standing is the next victim. It truly has no end.
 

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The fees would apply to boats that aren’t registered in Maryland, but are state-documented vessels because they are primarily used here.
In government-speak that means we're gonna get every penny we can outta this.

“People recognize the great need for services that these funds provide,” she said. “We want to keep boating thriving and safe in Maryland.”
Evidently they mean to do this by taxing it out of existence.
 

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What the [expletive of your choice] does this mean?

The fees would apply to boats that aren’t registered in Maryland, but are state-documented vessels because they are primarily used here.
In the vernacular lawyerly weasel-speak, it means that many of the federally documented boats with out of state hailing ports that are kept (principally) in Maryland and that also already pay the biannual MD excise/'use' fees (MD 'sticker') are going to be especially targeted for a 1000% tax increase, this would also include the foreign flagged boats.


Its just yet one more forceable extraction of money from the usual but rapidly diminishing prey species to operate an ever increasingly inefficient/bloated government agency .... and with ever decreasing return to those who are forced to pay such 'use'/excise tax. The obvious endpoint is the curtailment and elimination of common prosperity in order to support a quite increasingly affluent bureaucracy/oligarchy.

George III & Co. was less than 1/10000th as 'needy'.
 

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What the [expletive of your choice] does this mean?

The fees would apply to boats that aren’t registered in Maryland, but are state-documented vessels because they are primarily used here.
I think the reporter is trying to say it applies to USCG Documented boats berthed in MD waters as well as boats that are only registered with the State.
 

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Bob Gaudette, director of Maryland DNR's Boating Service talked about all these wonderful projects. He talked of keeping the waterways ice free during the winter. WHAT! Are you kidding me? The only ice breaking done by DNR is done for commercial fishing interests--not recreational boaters. Recreational boaters have their boats on the hard this time of year and that's where they've been since cold weather set in.
I won't argue the cost effectiveness but I can say for sure that DNR does break ice in Back Creek Annapolis in winter. I saw one of the boats go by (I don't remember the name, but it was named a after a man). I was able to get out to go sailing (which I do all year round) through the open channel.

So FACT: there is DNR ice-breaking and FACT: not all recreational boaters have their boats pulled in cold weather and FACT: some of use our boats year round.

I'm not sure breaking ice for me is a good use of tax payer dollars, but that isn't what you were talking about.
 

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I won't argue the cost effectiveness but I can say for sure that DNR does break ice in Back Creek Annapolis in winter. I saw one of the boats go by (I don't remember the name, but it was named a after a man). I was able to get out to go sailing (which I do all year round) through the open channel.

So FACT: there is DNR ice-breaking and FACT: not all recreational boaters have their boats pulled in cold weather and FACT: some of use our boats year round.

I'm not sure breaking ice for me is a good use of tax payer dollars, but that isn't what you were talking about.
Dave, DNR has been breaking relatively thin ice for quite some time, however, their ice breaking activities was not for the recreational boating community or industry--it was strictly for commercial purposes, mainly so commercial watermen could get out to the open waters of the bay and gill-net striped bass (rockfish) and tong for oysters. However, the recreational boating community is being asked to pay for this, which is essentially taxation without representation. We, the recreational boating community and recreational boating industry, are being asked to subsidize the commercial fishing industry in Chesapeake Bay.

And, you are right, not all recreational boats are pulled for the winter. Some stay in the water at marinas where bubbler systems and ice eaters keep the marina ice free. Do you believe DNR is opening those tiny creeks for you to go sailing, or did the guy who ventured out take advantage of the situation created by DNR's ice breaker opening the channel for the commercial watermen? I believe the latter is the case.

Now, lets say that the sailboat becomes stranded out there in the bay's open waters because ill winds and a huge drop in temperature caused the channel to freeze over again. And, if those commercial watermen were safely back at the dock, to you honestly believe DNR would send the ice breaker out to clear a channel back to your marina? I doubt it! I think they would have you anchor your boat, put you onboard their rescue craft and take you to the nearest, open stretch of shore, then send you a massive bill. And, if you didn't pay the bill, the taxpayers would end up bailing you out.

Maybe I'm just a bit cynical, but keep in mind I've been dealing with DNR for nearly 5 decades and believe me they do NOT have a good track record.

Gary :cool:
 

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theres lots of good people serioulsy hurting because of our poorly run goverment,the overall tax revenue has declined a bunch,i'm really amazed that local/state and federal goverment officials think that their pet projects and salaries shoudn't be affected too,btw is there any way of finding out the salary of goverment officials and also what countries and how much we give in federal aid?i may be mistaken but i've heard we even send money [aid] to china,1 billion to egypt,28 million to pakistan minus 70 million[slap on the hand]for lack of cooperation
 

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I dont know how you people in the Northeast, California, & Illinois put up with this ********. High taxes, high fees, and crappy services.

At least here in Florida, we have crappy services, but our taxes are relatively low as well.
 

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When you are spending someone else's money, it's pretty easy (lazy in fact) to want to do more by taking and spending more.

Wanting to counter that with doing less and taking less comes in second to last.

In real life, the rest of us are forced to do more with less!! I've yet to hear a talking head, here or in MD govt or in the White House, ever understand that. They don't have to when they can simply take what they want.
 

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Rich, don't expect what some folks call the queer little state of Mary Land to do anything "logical". Mary Land enacted three school zones on roads about two years ago. In places where there are no schools, no residences, and no children on any regular basis.

Their logic? Was that you can double speeding fines in a school zone, and no law requires a school to be there.

Mary Land, the 55mph speedbump on I95. Where commoners and lower classes apparently are valued about as much as any other kind of rose food.
 

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Surprised they haven't raised that "other" boat tax ... rum.
 
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