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Bad Luck? with my Swedish Ralph Osborn Koster

4.5K views 21 replies 5 participants last post by  udoma  
#1 ·
Hello all,

Summer 2010 I was here a lot asking for advice and probably some of you remember. After a long yourney I found my boat and it seemed to be in an extremely good condition. How the can eyes can be fooled!

Under this link I have placed a range of galleries about the boat.

Index of /01Images/Sweden-Sailing-Boats/2010/Koster-project-web

01-The-Boat/ = about the boat
02-Hull/ = the hull, which seems to be OK, even after checking and knocking on the entire hull.

The boat was all it's live on the Swedish west coats in salt sea water. I took it half august 2010 to the Swedish east Coast, which is a lot less salty. (Baltic sea) and took it out of the water in october 2010 before the winter.

When i took it out of the water, we presure washed the hull and a little chip broke out of the hull.
This spring I decided to inspect the wood around that area and to my horror to find out that I have wood rot in the boat hull.

How is it possible to get wood rot in a mahogany hull, which was all it's live in salty sea water?

see here this gallery;

Koster close-ups

For me a big mystery.

Anyway,

last year many forum members adviced my to lower the keel and to inspect the keel botls.
It's now going to be not only inspecting the keel bots but all wood as well.

Hope I cam afford this fun.

Definitely not I was hoping for.

Any feedback welcome

Udo
 
#2 · (Edited)
Hi Udo,

It's difficult to see from the pics (got any closer-up?) but cracking in between the garboard plank and the keel (the garboard seam) is quite normal for a boat that has been sailed: the hull is flexible and the keel isn't so eventually it needs scraping out and re-caulking - not normally a big deal.

The wood rot on the other hand.. is it actually rotten or just soft? I would suggest scraping back ("burning") a large area to find out.

Frost.. The chainplate pics show signs of (fresh) water getting into the timber. Did you keep the boat under cover - or out in the cold white stuff?? :eek:

She is still a stunning boat and definitely worth working on.. :)
 
#3 ·
Indeed I will be scraping large area's, or maybe the whole hull below the waterline to find out what is going on. The end of the planks, which i consider not to be good are really very soft and could easily peel away wood with my finger. The so called dead wood underneath, made out of oak was also still very wet, still do not think that was having rot, just the mahogany.

I made a tent cover from new materials myself in october, so the boat was totally dry. +we had hardly any rain here. It was freezing from october right till the end of March. Lots of snow but no rain.

see here my boat cover (from image 15 onwards)

October2010

Udo
 
#4 · (Edited)
Udo, I still cannot get over what a stunning part of the world you live in!! Please don't come here - you would find it dull and uninteresting. :)

I would suggest scraping the entire hull below the waterline - or at least large parts of it until you get back to sound timber. It is definitely rot and not just frost damage? Mahogany planks on Oak frames is a very common method of yacht construction, so I doubt there is anything happening here that no-one has seen before. Are the plank fastenings (presumably copper) okay?

Try not to touch the soft timber - there are epoxy products (called CPES) around that can solidify the wood over small non-structrual areas.
 
#6 ·
You need to speak with a professional but I'm thinking "stop playing with it and let it dry out some". My timber boat knowledge is limited but I did once own a 90 year old timber launch which I had to largely take back to bare timber and recaulk the entire hull. Moisture in the timber looked much like this but it is moisture not rot. Your task now is to ensure that the wetness does not result in rot but I doubt your problems are as bad as you fear.
 
#7 ·
The ends of the planks are now badly damaged, so at least part of the planking needs to be replaced. That needs to be done extremely precisely since it's carvel build extremely tight seamed, no glue, just exact. maybe at this spot not too difficult, but still a reasonable job, not something I do in a weekend I guess.
 
#11 ·
All the garboards were rotten? Wow! :eek:

You've done the right thing, Udo - All the ribs and structural timbers seem ok in the photos and the boat will be drier and cleaner once the planks are back on.

Keep going! She'll be one solid boat when you've finished. :)
 
#12 ·
Sorry, no advice for you. With that said, current troubles aside, WOW what a beauty!!!

John
 
#14 ·
#18 ·
Oddly enough as I read your posts I was thinking that checking in over at the WBF would be a good idea. It is great that you found someone to help you with the repairs.
Your boat is quite beautiful. Glad you will save her.
 
#19 ·
I am on a couple of forums and the WBF is one of them.
Reason? Since I am in contact with a few people over here in this forum.+ Jef is one of the most knowledgeable people I came accross, and to hear feedback from many people is always xtremeky helpfull.

So no reason to switch forum!

Cheers,

Udo