[divefreak]

Yesterday the life boat from Peniche went out to respond to a mayday. The time as disagreeable but not threatening and today is a nice day. The saillboat in question had 9/10m and had a engine problem. I saw photos of the boat and its sails were intact and apparently without any problem. The conditions permitted the life saving boat to tow them to Port. Why the hell did they not sail to Port? Probably another ones that did not want to pass a disagreeable night at sea

I operate a tow boat buisness in the baltic

80% of our tows are Sailboats with some Kind of engine trouble, but intact sails...

René

 

[divefreak]

One Question

did the police boat capsize on the way back to the harbor or while making the safety/standby boat while the lifeboat tried to establish the tow?

Ok A Second one.... what were they thinking 3 or 4 h after high tie trying to tow the 44 footer with an 8 or 9m Rib? Next good time slot was at least 14h away.... The X was already a CTL at this point

 

[divefreak]

They capsized after having rescued some of the crew (the others were on the other life saving boat) while attempting to establish a tow.

Ok, so the capsized police boat tried to establish the tow. Right?

I´ve searched the net to get some pics of the setup of the two RIbs involved.

So far it looks as if none had a real tow post or was in other means setup up for towing in a safe manner...

btw I don´t want to looks as a smart ass here, just trying to find infos what happened for educational purposes.

Did my fair share of thumb things as a lifeguard too

 

[divefreak]

They were trying to do that at the Portuguese way, "desenracando-se" as well as they could. O desenrascanço is a true institution on the Portuguese culture and means an wild improvisation

Ok I know what you´re talking about

I was at Beja in 98 during Strong Resolve

The Police boat was cached by a big have when it was circling the sailboat trying to put themselves in position. The boat pitch poled.

Thanks forthe Info Paolo!

 

[divefreak]

Immersion suits make a big difference in the cold atlantic waters!

 

[divefreak]

You can be sure the decisions of the guy in charge will be questioned ("why the hell didn't you just pick up the sailboat's crew and get the hell out of there??") and maybe they'll get a more suitable rescue boat like you guys use.

Perhaps.. or equipment? or training?? I would not know, just sitting back in my arm-chair like you are, Paulo.

Hi

Lifeboat/Rescueboat Design is a since of its own

I discussed the australian philosophies with Pete from mid coast marine, he´s well known in the IRB /Surfrescue scene.

I´ll never understand why cat boats are used in the surf! Inshore, on lakes or on the baltic, yes. They make a nice an stable work platform. But on a Barr/ in the surf, no way i would go out in such a boat!

Give me a rigid hull inflatable, or a conventional deep V hull. with a self rightening Frame or pilothouse and I´ll be happy

The RNLI Boats are nice or our aluminium Boats, but they are too slow IMHO, but very very safe. On the other Hand even on our 27m ships they had deadly accidents in the north sea.

 

[divefreak]

Knrm not rnli

 

[divefreak]

Here for coastal operations they use RIBs (more usually), proper ones not the Navy one that was involved or small self rightening rescue boats.

Looks like an old german boat or at least the same design

very very good boats but a bit slow

the Rib is also nice!

but currently our DGzRS is loosing ground by switching the smaller boats for sternheavy crappy designed Copys of the KNRM Ribs....

 

[divefreak]

I know some rescue-people here who don't like using automatic PFDs in case they inflate at the wrong time - but they are taking a risk also that they'll be concious when they hit the water...

We went on with a different aproach when I was an active Lifeguard.
Captain + one of the Crew automatic PFD, the designated rescue swimmer manual pfd

IThey say they are going to see if that was a maintenance problem or a defect and that's why several inquiries. One of them is looking at how the maintenance of life saving devices is made.

Just need to check if the Floatationg Body is Ok, If not old vs new damage and if the pressure cylinder punctured or not