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Trying to get a sense of what's involved in finishing and fitting out a clean(ish) project boat.
The particulars: there is an ad for an Allegra 24 hull on Craigslist in Cape Coral, FL for $3K asking - there are 3 photos. The interior photo show a "new" forward bulkhead with compression post, sole, and nothing else but the bare fiberglass hull. The second photo shows one of seven (uninstalled) bronze portlights. The last photo shows what appears to be an intact hull on jacks (possibly on a trailer) with a sloppy looking paint job and an unstepped mast beside it. A Yanmar 1 cyl is available "separately" (I'd upsize to a 2 cyl). Presumably there is nothing else - no rigging, sails, rudder/tiller, internal structure of any kind, etc.
The Allegra 24 is a rare bluewater pocket cruiser, reportedly a stretched and improved reworking of the Flicka, (being bigger, faster, and less prone to stern squatting). It was mostly sold as a kit boat, I believe in the '80s and '90s. The most comparable boat to it is probably a Dana 24, which has a PHRF of 228 (not bad for a small heavy cruiser), and sells used for $40-50K.
So - this is an opportunity to take the hull of a solid, proven bluewater pocket cruiser that is also (reputedly) a decent light air sailor, and finish it out as you would like it - it's a blank, high-quality sailing canvas.
And I am a dinghy sailor with no boat-building, mechanical, electrical, or construction skills, whatsoever.
My (crazy) questions are:
1 - what would it cost, roughly, to complete the interior of this boat to a comfortable, clean, rugged standard for cruising - meaning joinery, glasswork if any, plumbing and through-hulls, electrical (not including gizmos), 2 cyl diesel w drivetrain, etc. - IF one didn't have the skills or time to do it himself, and wanted to hire a competent yard or builder or series of workmen to do it for you?
2 - where can one get plans for #1 above? Is it necessary to hire a naval architect, or can one buy available plans for a comparable boat for a few hundred dollars and count on competent workmen to adapt them as necessary?
3- what would it cost, roughly, to complete the exterior of this boat to a comfortable, clean, rugged standard for cruising - meaning sails, rigging, lifelines rudder/tiller, prop, portlight installation, bottom paint, non-skid, windex, etc. - IF one didn't have the skills or time to do it himself, and wanted to hire a competent yard or builder or workmen to do it for you?
4 - Is there anyone you would recommend or consider for the work at ##1-3 above, particularly if in the Tampa Bay area?
5 - Assuming reasonably full-time work by experienced people, what is the approximate time from acquisition to splash-in, e.g., is 6 months reasonable?
Yes, I realize that this project is probably way too expensive to farm out, and a better project for someone with the skills, or the time and inclination to develop those skills, to take on. But the Allegra 24 is a boat I've been interested in for a while, and I'd like a least to get some thoughts (from more experienced sailors and project-finishers) on what it might take.
And if this thread alerts someone on SN better suited to the project about this boat, I'm OK with that.
Thanks in advance.
The particulars: there is an ad for an Allegra 24 hull on Craigslist in Cape Coral, FL for $3K asking - there are 3 photos. The interior photo show a "new" forward bulkhead with compression post, sole, and nothing else but the bare fiberglass hull. The second photo shows one of seven (uninstalled) bronze portlights. The last photo shows what appears to be an intact hull on jacks (possibly on a trailer) with a sloppy looking paint job and an unstepped mast beside it. A Yanmar 1 cyl is available "separately" (I'd upsize to a 2 cyl). Presumably there is nothing else - no rigging, sails, rudder/tiller, internal structure of any kind, etc.
The Allegra 24 is a rare bluewater pocket cruiser, reportedly a stretched and improved reworking of the Flicka, (being bigger, faster, and less prone to stern squatting). It was mostly sold as a kit boat, I believe in the '80s and '90s. The most comparable boat to it is probably a Dana 24, which has a PHRF of 228 (not bad for a small heavy cruiser), and sells used for $40-50K.
So - this is an opportunity to take the hull of a solid, proven bluewater pocket cruiser that is also (reputedly) a decent light air sailor, and finish it out as you would like it - it's a blank, high-quality sailing canvas.
And I am a dinghy sailor with no boat-building, mechanical, electrical, or construction skills, whatsoever.
My (crazy) questions are:
1 - what would it cost, roughly, to complete the interior of this boat to a comfortable, clean, rugged standard for cruising - meaning joinery, glasswork if any, plumbing and through-hulls, electrical (not including gizmos), 2 cyl diesel w drivetrain, etc. - IF one didn't have the skills or time to do it himself, and wanted to hire a competent yard or builder or series of workmen to do it for you?
2 - where can one get plans for #1 above? Is it necessary to hire a naval architect, or can one buy available plans for a comparable boat for a few hundred dollars and count on competent workmen to adapt them as necessary?
3- what would it cost, roughly, to complete the exterior of this boat to a comfortable, clean, rugged standard for cruising - meaning sails, rigging, lifelines rudder/tiller, prop, portlight installation, bottom paint, non-skid, windex, etc. - IF one didn't have the skills or time to do it himself, and wanted to hire a competent yard or builder or workmen to do it for you?
4 - Is there anyone you would recommend or consider for the work at ##1-3 above, particularly if in the Tampa Bay area?
5 - Assuming reasonably full-time work by experienced people, what is the approximate time from acquisition to splash-in, e.g., is 6 months reasonable?
Yes, I realize that this project is probably way too expensive to farm out, and a better project for someone with the skills, or the time and inclination to develop those skills, to take on. But the Allegra 24 is a boat I've been interested in for a while, and I'd like a least to get some thoughts (from more experienced sailors and project-finishers) on what it might take.
And if this thread alerts someone on SN better suited to the project about this boat, I'm OK with that.