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Does anyone have experience buying a boat in Canada and importing it to the US? Extra taxes/fees? Paperwork?
 

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No experience but as long as it is made in North America there should not be any duty. I know many bought in the US end up here and there is not any duty due to free trade.
 

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SNer Djodenda did this a few years back.. not complicated, I don't think. PM him or he may catch this thread and respond himself.
 

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Looking at the US Customs site seems to indicate there would be a 1.5% duty and it appears there is a form that needs to be filled out declaring the engine meets EPA guidelines.
 

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If it's North American built there shouldn't be any duty under NAFTA.. if there's a 1.5% fee I wonder what it's based on/for. Going the other way, our boat was not NA built, and duty was 9.5%.
 

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We just bought a power boat in Canada and brought it into the states. It was a piece of cake, but you need to make sure the broker fills out the proper paperwork. There is a requirement regarding delivery that says you have to have someone deliver the boat to a customs port of entry. Our broker had the owner turn the boat over to us once it was in US waters (we brought the boat home in the water). We also did not use a customs broker and filled out all the forms about the engines, etc, ourselves which saved app. $1000. PM me with any questions.
 

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Thanks! This boat is a private listing w/o broker (bad news) Good news is that its in Windsor, ON so port entry should be right across the river in Detroit. Could sail it home from there.
 

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We just bought a power boat in Canada and brought it into the states. It was a piece of cake, but you need to make sure the broker fills out the proper paperwork. There is a requirement regarding delivery that says you have to have someone deliver the boat to a customs port of entry. Our broker had the owner turn the boat over to us once it was in US waters (we brought the boat home in the water). We also did not use a customs broker and filled out all the forms about the engines, etc, ourselves which saved app. $1000. PM me with any questions.
Was there an import duty?
 

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No duty because of NAFTA (if the boat was built in North America there is no duty despite what it seems to say on the US Customs site). I can look through our paperwork and let you know what forms were used if you get serious.

Edit: without a Canadian broker it might be worth it to use a customs broker.
 

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So.. I've done this twice now. The first time, in 2009? I imported my Canadian-built boat from Vancouver, BC to Washington state. I didn't use a customs broker. The biggest problem I had was getting my $US converted to $Can... Everybody wanted to take a couple of percent for the transaction, and I didn't want to pay that. The Canadian escrow company handled the currency exchange for me for a nominal fee. That was much appreciated.

The way it worked was that the paperwork was all handled by the buying and selling broker and the escrow company. When I arrived in the U.S., the customs folks came down and I filled out some paperwork, and paid the nominal fees for the transfer. (You need exact change).. the whole thing took about 30 minutes. .. Easy

That being said, I helped a friend bring his newly-purchased 1D35 from Vancouver BC to Washington state. He thinks that the escrow company did the currency exchange as well. He did use a customs broker, though. He was told by the selling broker that the law had changed and that a customs broker was required. I surfed around a bit to see if that was the case, and could find no evidence that was true. I didn't have much confidence in the (different) selling broker in this case. The experience with the customs officers on this boat was essentially the same.. Took about 30 minutes. Easy.

Since Windsor is so close (To those not familiar with local geography, Windsor is actually south of Detroit).. I'd be inclined to try it without a customs broker. If you get turned away, then you could always sail back to Windsor and try again... Getting kind of late in the year, though...

I know that my boat transfer officially took place at sea, although the previous owner wasn't present. This avoids Canadian taxes.

As others have indicated above, if the boat is Canadian or U.S., there is no duty, due to NAFTA.

I'd be happy to dig up any detailed information you'd like.

Oh.. and this better be a sailboat we're talking about here... :)
 
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Definitely a sailboat! Lesson learned on the +£€>~\%#}ing power boats.

It's a little too late in the year for the transfer to happen. Would have to figure out how to do it and then launch the boat in spring. Not sure how it would work if I bought it now and it remained in Canada until May...
 

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Howdy:

So.. I've done this twice now. The first time, in 2009? I imported my Canadian-built boat from Vancouver, BC to Washington state. I didn't use a customs broker. The biggest problem I had was getting my $US converted to $Can... Everybody wanted to take a couple of percent for the transaction, and I didn't want to pay that. The Canadian escrow company handled the currency exchange for me for a nominal fee. That was much appreciated.

The way it worked was that the paperwork was all handled by the buying and selling broker and the escrow company. When I arrived in the U.S., the customs folks came down and I filled out some paperwork, and paid the nominal fees for the transfer. (You need exact change).. the whole thing took about 30 minutes. .. Easy

That being said, I helped a friend bring his newly-purchased 1D35 from Vancouver BC to Washington state. He thinks that the escrow company did the currency exchange as well. He did use a customs broker, though. He was told by the selling broker that the law had changed and that a customs broker was required. I surfed around a bit to see if that was the case, and could find no evidence that was true. I didn't have much confidence in the (different) selling broker in this case. The experience with the customs officers on this boat was essentially the same.. Took about 30 minutes. Easy.

Since Windsor is so close (To those not familiar with local geography, Windsor is actually south of Detroit).. I'd be inclined to try it without a customs broker. If you get turned away, then you could always sail back to Windsor and try again... Getting kind of late in the year, though...

I know that my boat transfer officially took place at sea, although the previous owner wasn't present. This avoids Canadian taxes.

As others have indicated above, if the boat is Canadian or U.S., there is no duty, due to NAFTA.

I'd be happy to dig up any detailed information you'd like.

Oh.. and this better be a sailboat we're talking about here... :)
Hi Djodenda,

I'm in Seattle and buying a boat Vancouver, BC... I'm concerned about getting the best deal on the exchange rate. Who did you use as an escrow agent in Canada? Sounds like you were pretty happy with what they did for you.

Thanks!

Phil
 

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I imported a Canadian built sailboat from Canada in '83. Pre-nafta there was indeed import duty to pay and I did so. The CN dollar was low at the time and I was getting a decent deal on a high end boat. I went to a local bank and got a bank check in the amount (approx 25K CN$) and took that with me.

When I sailed it home across the Straits of Juan DeFuca I paid duty to the US Customs folks in Pt Angeles. I had the new survey and the bill of sale. That's all they needed.

Once back in the States, it actually took me well over a month to get a new Oregon title created, what with several letters back n forth. They have to be certain that untitled vessels are not stolen, so their caution is appropriate.

While you do need some accurate current advice, at least I can assure you that this is fairly routine and (going out on a limb...) should not need any hired assistance to get through the transaction.

BTW, I also figured out a pretty good way to find a good surveyor in a "foreign" city. But that's a separate story and not what you asked about at this point.

Happy shopping!

Loren
 

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Definitely a sailboat! Lesson learned on the +£€>~\%#}ing power boats.

It's a little too late in the year for the transfer to happen. Would have to figure out how to do it and then launch the boat in spring. Not sure how it would work if I bought it now and it remained in Canada until May...
I'm not sure it applies in your case but Americans can keep boats in Canada if and only if they're being worked on at a yard. I believe the work order has to be filed with customs or someone like that. And just bottom paint/winterize/summerize isn't enough to qualify.
 

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I'm not sure it applies in your case but Americans can keep boats in Canada if and only if they're being worked on at a yard. I believe the work order has to be filed with customs or someone like that. And just bottom paint/winterize/summerize isn't enough to qualify.
There are an awful lot of US registered boats in permanent moorage in BC marinas... so I'm not certain the above is strictly true here...
 

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Hi Djodenda,

I'm in Seattle and buying a boat Vancouver, BC... I'm concerned about getting the best deal on the exchange rate. Who did you use as an escrow agent in Canada? Sounds like you were pretty happy with what they did for you.

Thanks!

Phil
Phil:
I used Marine Titles Canada Ltd.
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Colette Bell was my contact.
Yes, I was very happy with them.

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There are an awful lot of US registered boats in permanent moorage in BC marinas... so I'm not certain the above is strictly true here...
They could have been imported even if they're still US flagged (and paid 13% HST if it was recent). But I wouldn't be surprised if enforcement varies regionally especially since that rule is only a few years old. It is a concern on the east coast but I've seen lots of boating rules not applied or take a long time to catch up with you in Canada.
 
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