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Davits - Kato or Garhauer?

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Both are good davits and companies.

We have Garhauer Davits and love them. We purchased and installed them ourselves 5 years ago for about $1000 ( at the boat show you can dicker with them) and we bought the 1.25 inch stainless steel ones. They are very robust and come with 6:1 bocks standard ( important to have), have large backing plates, cam cleats as well as horn cleats. They are very well made. I am assuming you are comparing to the Kato Island series.

Additionally we also have the Garhauer radar pole with detachable engine hoist which is also a robust well made piece of equipment.

I installed Garjauer clutches to replace my only Shaefer ones and also am very pleased with them.

I have found Garhauer to have superior customer service and make good products. A double win in todays age.
 
OK, someone's gotta ask, may as well be me... :)

Ted Hood's Little Harbor/Bristol 38.8 is one of the most beautiful, perfectly proportioned boats of her size ever drawn...

Are you really sure you want to stick a pair of davits on such a beauty?

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Wow,

You caught me by suprise I thought you might include the dodger and radar on the backstay to as it takes away from the beautiful lines too.

A boat like that shouldn't be adorned with anything.
 
Yes quite a shame to ruin the aesthetic lines drawn, that's why we have museums and pictures. I've seen many beautiful Hinkleys and Morris adorned with self steering vanes, davits radar poles, etc.

I guess lots of people use their boats and adorn them with creature comforts and safety devices to make them more user friendly and really not worry about being photoshoot for magazines.
 
Many Hinckleys and Morris cruising boats in that size range with davits? Really? Well, that's not been my observation...

If the listings on Yachtworld are any guide, dinghy davits on such boats would appear to be far from common. Of the 46 Hinckleys between 35 and 43 feet listed, only ONE 43 sports davits... Of all the Morris cruisers up to 48 feet listed, NONE features davits... Same with the 6 Bristol 38.8s currently listed, so I think it's fair to say that this is not the type of boat that one typically sees equipped with davits...

Hey, I'm just asking Graham the question, is all... I have no idea how he plans to use his boat, what sort of dinghy he's using, and so on... I simply happen to think the utility of dinghy davits on boats of that size might be somewhat overrated, but that's just me... I certainly don't fel they rise to the level of being a "safety device". The Bristol 38.8 has one of the largest expanses of foredeck and coachroof of any boat in her size range, and will easily accommodate a tender brought aboard, which with a 2:1 spinnaker halyard or similar, isn't all that much more work than securing a dink on davits... He's gonna want to do that when sailing, or motoring, in much of anything beyond flat water, anyway...

If Graham really feels the need for davits, then of course he should go for it... I'd simply suggest that before he commits to doing so, he might try configuring a temporary setup to hoist his tender, and judge the way it looks, the effect it might have on the trim of the boat, and so on... Perhaps he's already done so, and is comfortable with all that... I'm simply suggesting, with a boat as beautiful as his, that he gives the aesthetics and effect of it all some serious consideration...

Don't take my word for it, take Maine Sail's:
Yes quite a shame to ruin the aesthetic lines drawn, that's why we have museums and pictures. I've seen many beautiful Hinkleys and Morris adorned with self steering vanes, davits radar poles, etc.
I guess lots of people use their boats and adorn them with creature comforts and safety devices to make them more user friendly and really not worry about being photoshoot for magazines -chef2sail
Jon my friend, you are taking what I wrote and twisting it out of context. Surprising for someone so good reading the Kings English. Are you just doing this to argue with me.

In my quote phrase I said I've seen many beautiful Hinkleys and Morris adorned with self steering vanes, davits radar poles, etc. I never said the majority of them had davits. I said their were numerous items people have attached (adorned) the boats with for creature comforts and safety. I never said safety by itself either so I don't know why you make that the issue, The safety referred to the radar not the davits

A very quick search of YW like you did shows quite a few Bristol's with davits, radar pole, steering etc.

http://www.yachtworld.com/core/list...boat_id=2548257&ybw=&units=Feet&currency=USD&access=Public&listing_id=1572&url=

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Obviously the OP has decided he wanted to put davits for whatever reason on his Egg Harbour/ Bristol 38.8, as is his choice. I am sure he is smart enough and sailor enough to understand what it will do to his aesthetics and wasn't really looking for that opinion.,..in fact he was looking for a choice between two specific davits. He has that right of course and maybe has looked into detachable davits. To even bring it up and suggest he is ruining the aesthetic lines of his boat is rude IMHO, no m,atter how eloquently you couched it, and is a drift to the thread.

We actually are looking hard at Bristols/ Little Harbors of similar length and greater for our last boat. We love their lines, sailing characteristics, and their workmanship. I guarantee you that when we purchase it we will adorn it with a radar pole and davits if it doesn't have them already, because that's how we sail.

Many of us have decided to put davits on our boats for reasons of comfort, ease of use of the dinghy in the conditions we most sail in where we sail the most. We also have the option of putting the dinghy on the foredeck as you mentioned. That decision obviously was already made by Graham as HE knows how and why he really wants davits in the first place.
 
Now that looks like someone who knows what they are doing and like to go cruising in style and comfort and equipped their beautiful boat accordingly and uses it. Stereo, cockpit table, cushions, electronics, motor on the rail, davits, protective bimini and dodger to prevent cancer and keep you from getting worn out by the elements. Beautiful boats are to be enjoyed not just gazed at.
One feature I really appreciate in a boat, especially when singlehanding, is the ability to simply pop my head up out of the companionway, and be able to make a full scan of the horizon from there...

Needless to say, a clear, unobstructed view aft on this one is somewhat compromised :)

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Running a boat like this, it's easy for to appreciate why - whenever I happen to be running a fast boat on the ICW - those snowbirds huddled inside their oxygen tents NEVER seem to me coming... :)
Couldnt you just put the dinghy on the foredeck so you could see out the stern if it bothered you???:laugher:laugher

Running a boat like this, it's easy for to appreciate why - whenever I happen to be running a fast boat on the ICW - those snowbirds huddled inside their oxygen tents NEVER seem to me comin
And here I thought they would surely hear your teeth chattering, pages from the paper charts rustling, and the slide rule clanging as you approached them ( grin). Guess they need side mirrors so they can see behind them like a truck has, Maybe they have more than oxygen in those tents:laugher:laugher