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Do you own a yacht?

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In you own mind, disregarding any official definitions, do you own a yacht? Do any of your neighbours?

In the last couple of weeks I have seen the word yacht applied to quite a few boats referred to as yachts either in stories or online. Most of them were larger sailboats but a couple were motor-cruisers in the 40' range and there were even a few sailboats comparable to mine albeit of a slightly classier brand.

Me? I'd have to move into the 60-foot range before I would apply the word yacht... unless for some reason my application to the Royal Vancouver Yacht Club is accepted (and paid for by an anonymous donor)... and then, well, I guess I am buying a uniform regardless of my boat size ;)
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Since the term 'yacht' simply means a pleasure craft, pretty much any of us who own a boat own a yacht.

The word has only taken on the meaning of something grand in the minds of folks who choose to believe otherwise.
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In my mind calling my boat a "yacht" is a bit pretentious. I simply call it my boat, or my sailboat. In the same vein I don't call myself "Captain" either. To me a captain is a professional mariner or a military rank. I don't own a captains hat even though it is part of the "club formal" attire at my yacht club. (Yes, I still call it a YACHT CLUB!)

On the other hand, I was talking to someone the other day and they were asking about my boat. I showed them a picture and they exclaimed "That's not a boat, that's a YACHT!)

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I thought it was related to OAL.... something like boats over 30 something feet.

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A yacht is a sailing or power vessel used for pleasure, cruising, or racing. There is no standard definition, though the term generally applies to vessels with a cabin intended for overnight use. To be termed a yacht, as opposed to a boat, such a pleasure vessel is likely to be at least 33 feet (10 m) in length and may have been judged to have good aesthetic qualities.

The Commercial Yacht Code classifies yachts 79 ft (24 m) and over as large. Such yachts typically require a hired crew and have higher construction standards. Further classifications for large yachts are: commercial—carrying no more than 12 passengers, private—solely for the pleasure of the owner and guests, or by flag, the country under which it is registered. A superyacht (sometimes megayacht) generally refers to any yacht (sail or power) longer than 131 ft (40 m).

Racing yachts are designed to emphasize performance over comfort. Charter yachts are run as a business for profit. As of 2020 there were more than 15,000 yachts of sufficient size to require a professional crew."
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My current yacht is a J24, but, in speaking with non-sailors, I have never referred to my boats as yachts, including my former 35 footer. In the eyes of non-sailors, it seems pretentious. Many years ago I invited my mother-in-law for a day on my then new 25' sailboat. She asked me if she should bring a deck chair.
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I never have called my BOAT a yacht.

If I did I would be a yachtie and have to get some better clothes and one of those stupid hats
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Theres a cultural difference in the word Yacht depending on what country you are from.
I know Americans will hit the roof but their common usage of the word Yacht is not the world wide use of it.

In the US it appears to ME (I'm not American) the word Yacht is used for a larger motor boat or a very large sailing boat (over the 24 meter LOA rule). Over 90 foot for Superyacht but does anyone actually say "I own a SuperYacht"?
The USA seems to call a sailing boat under 24m a "sailing boat". A motor boat appears more often called by its type: Trawler, center-consol, Bass Boat etc

In Australia any sailing boat above a dinghy is referred to as a Yacht. We'd more commonly say "Im going sailing on my yacht" that Im going sailing on my sail-boat or sailing boat.
In Australia if you own a motor boat thats 200 feet long you own a motor boat... but the media will call a 10 foot tender what they want "SuperYacht owner Arrested on his 10 foot SUPERGIGAYacht!!!!!!!".

I sail a yacht. But in American company I say Im sailing a sail-boat.

Mark
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We own a boat.

Any sailboat larger than ours is a yacht.

Powerboats larger than 45' are yachts, except those stupid designs that look like they could flip over at any second.
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We own a boat.

Any sailboat larger than ours is a yacht.
Ah yes, that's the right answer, right there :)

I remember the first time we docked in a fairly large marina, all puffed up with our 39' Beneteau and then within 30 feet we realized..."there's always a bigger boat!" So many bigger, shinier boats. We were quite deflated by the time we hit the ramp. :oops::oops::oops:
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Ah yes, that's the right answer, right there :)

I remember the first time we docked in a fairly large marina, all puffed up with our 39' Beneteau and then within 30 feet we realized..."there's always a bigger boat!" So many bigger, shinier boats. We were quite deflated by the time we hit the ramp. :oops::oops::oops:
I should add, at risk of being banned or getting a good arsche kicking: those old full keel blue water boats are yachts. They LOOK like yachts; loads of teak, carved nameplates, bronze hawsholes, brass ports, many cutter rigged, 8' long sprit with massive dolphin striker, etc. A 40' Beneteau is not a yacht, but one of those 40' 1970s tanks sure is.
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A 40' Beneteau is not a yacht,
My yacht is.


Mark
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Hi,

Well I do belong to a yacht club, but the majority of the boats in the club are motor boats. When I tell people about my boat I say something like "I have a sail boat." I do a fair amount of racing, and the events are always listed as a regatta or "yacht race." It doesn't bother me if others describe their sailboat as a yacht.

Barry
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I find the term pretentious, and rather amusing. Guess that's my culture speaking. I certainly never refer to my sailboat as a "yacht." She's a 'Good Old Boat', or just a boat. I might even call her a little ship, but never a "yacht."
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I have a boat. I sail a boat. I go to the boat. I repair the boat. It is a boat.
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So, as most of you do, in general conversation I call my boat a boat. But in any official radio conversation, and particularly with the Coast Guard or DNR, I will say "This is the sailing Yacht Synergy...." when I make the first hail.

To me there is nothing pretentious about using the term yacht in its proper sense. But what has happened among people who don't know better, particularly in the US is that length gets mixed into the definition.

I can't speak to how other countries use the term. The British and South Africans seem to use the term as Americans historically used the term, to distinguish between a pleasure craft (i.e. a yacht) vs a commercial vessel. If you read American and British sailing fiction and non-fiction from the 1970's and before that time, length in no way figured into whether a boat was a yacht. Length only comes into play in the term boat vs ship. It also comes into play over the demarcation in the safety requirements for vessels. There has always been a sense that a yacht is a 'finer vessel' such that in the day it was not unusual to see the term "Yacht Finish" meant to distinguish between "Workboat Finish" or "Utilitarian" levels of finish.

Obviously, there has been some change in thinking on this in the US. Growing up, US Sailing was USYRU, which was the United States Yacht Racing Association which covered yachts of all sizes including Opti's. When the name change was debated in the late 1980's, there was a sense that the general public viewed the term 'Yacht' as connoting exclusivity. In an effort to move sailing away from a perception of an 'upper-class' activity, US Sailing was chosen a more egalitarian name was chosen.

Obviously, the internet plays a major role in adding to the misapplication of many sailing terms. If you do a Google search or go on Wikipedia, it is amazing how much they get wrong as compared to the firmly clear definitions within the sailing community that existed previously,

Jeff
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When calling on the radio I say: "This is the Sailing Vessel ..." as in S/V. This is the proper radio terminology we were taught in my radio course.
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When calling on the radio I say: "This is the Sailing Vessel ..." as in S/V. This is the proper radio terminology we were taught in my radio course.
Although IIRC that's a North American convention and other regions use S/Y
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When calling on the radio I say: "This is the Sailing Vessel ..." as in S/V. This is the proper radio terminology we were taught in my radio course.
Yes, I say "Sailing Vessel" on the radio also.

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When calling on the radio I say: "This is the Sailing Vessel ..." as in S/V. This is the proper radio terminology we were taught in my radio course.
That is interesting. Back when I took my radio course and test, the proper description was "Sailing Yacht' for a pleasure craft, or "Sailing Vessel" for a commercial vessel. It sounds like that may have changed in the past 40 years.

Jeff
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The term is not in the least pretentious to an Englishmen’s ears. A yacht is any sailing vessel, and those who sail them are yachtsmen. It is a formal definition in England, and all sailing boats are yachts, but no self-respecting yacht owner, however large, goes round calling themselves “captain,” or wearing a brass hat with the rank emblazoned on it, as I have seen here. Now that’s pretentious!

When I came to America from the old country, I had never even heard the term “sailboat,” (although I do agree it is a more descriptive term then yacht, as it clearly differentiates from a “stink pot,” which by the way is also a yacht). Having now been here longer than some members on this forum have been alive, I describe my schooner to Americans as a sailboat, because the correct term “brigantine” falls on totally deaf ears, even to sailboaters.

However, I was asked by the editor of Practical Boat Owner in the UK, to refer to it as a yacht in my articles.

It’s just another of those, “Divided by a common language” things.
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