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If you look at the design carefully. Every time you use it, the water and dirt in sump trap will indiscriminate trapping good diesel.

I had a captain/owner once proudly announced to me how good the filter work by trapping so much bad diesel. I looked at the bottom of the filter, it was all clear diesel. He just tossed over board.

I almost die when I saw that. There are lots of morOOns in this world.
 

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Wow, 500 gallons of fuel! Sure your not a stinkpot? Don't think I've used close to 500 gallons in the last 6 or 7 years of cruising.
I am both. My family owns all boats collectively, so between the clan we have something like 10 boats at any different time. Some power, some sail, all get used a lot.

The other thing we have used is to arrange an entire tanker truck to show up. If you have a few friends with big boats the cost savings can be massive. Typically once a year we try to arrange it with a few big offshore fishing boats to all fill up at once.
 

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you should have thought of this before entering Maryland, you could have saved a fair amount by topping off the tanks in Virginia... The prices in Little Creek would likely be considerably lower than the Annapolis area, Cape Charles and Rudee Inlet probably even better still, although with that boat's draft, getting alongside the fuel docks in either spot could be problematic...
You two have a tunnel vision and narrow minded or just so stuck up you could think straight. There are many reasons that fueling was not advisable until now. Of course you act like you have the first hand experience on FRC. You are getting senile and barking indiscriminately. :D

Now I understand why Charles Doane, Executive Editor, for Sail Magazine singled you out as the armchair sailor in the Be Goo Too incident. In your little brain, you cooked up every scenario like you were there. But that was not how it went.
 

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The other thing we have used is to arrange an entire tanker truck to show up.
Last time when we fueled in FLL, we got it from a Tanker truck. There was a short line waiting for diesel. I was told the price was the cheapest in the last couple years in cruising.
 

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If you look at the design carefully. Every time you use it, the water and dirt in sump trap will indiscriminate trapping good diesel.

I had a captain/owner once proudly announced to me how good the filter work by trapping so much bad diesel. I looked at the bottom of the filter, it was all clear diesel. He just tossed over board.

I almost die when I saw that. There are lots of morOOns in this world.
You don't have to use one. Just get diesel from the pump, and carry lots of extra Racor filters.
 

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Truck Stop

I have probably used 40 gal of fuel in 6 years. I get it from a truck stop (5 gal) once a year at the end of the season. Add all the bio stuff. Never had and issue. I think I average around $4/gal over the years where I live.
 

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You are getting senile and barking indiscriminately. :D
LOL! So says the "morOOn" who starts a dumba$$ thread asking whether or not to shop for the best diesel price???

:)

I'm amazed a boat like FRC doesn't have an onboard fuel polishing system... Hell, even I've got one on my little tub... Whenever the engine runs, it runs, cycling fuel through a 60 GPH Racor 900...


 

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I find those funnel filters to be an enormous pain in the rear. They say high flow rates, but I would hate to know what they compare it to. Spitting fuel on the deck as the flow from the diesel hose flows too fast. We have a 100 gal tank and will take on 70 gallons give or take when we top off. It would take forever.
 

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Hey guys, you two really need to go to separate corners and not interact, don't you think. You know who you are.
 

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There are lots of morOOns in this world.
I am one as well. I changed the diesel filter, and put the old one in a ziplock brand bag, then sat it on the teak for a few hours while I worked....

I save my filter drainings for a place that accepts them. Dumping a small amount of diesel in the water at sea will not hurt anything, but by land....:mad:
 

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I find those funnel filters to be an enormous pain in the rear. They say high flow rates, but I would hate to know what they compare it to. Spitting fuel on the deck as the flow from the diesel hose flows too fast. We have a 100 gal tank and will take on 70 gallons give or take when we top off. It would take forever.
Yeah, you whip one of those things out at any of the fuel docks that primarily serve the big sportfishers here in NJ, you definitely do so at your peril :)

They're not as much of a PITA as the original Baja filters, however - those things were a ROYAL pain, painfully slow, and incredibly messy to clean up and stow...

I carry one aboard, but use it for filling from a pump, unless the fuel is really suspect. Main reason why, is my fuel whistle that prevents overflowing needs a certain rate of fill to work, and that's generally more important to me...

Still, they're very nice to have when filling from jerry cans... Worst fuel I've ever taken was from a gas station/truck stop in Varadero, Cuba... After dumping in about 2 cans worth, the filter mesh had become so clogged as to have virtually stopped the flow completely, I practically had to clear out the detritus with a spoon :)

I wouldn't venture too far off the beaten path without one...
 

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Shopping around for the best fuel price is a duty as a consumer in a capitalistic system. I'll go out of my way to avoid paying too much for fuel (or bananas:). There are a number of ways to search for the best fuel price.

Bahamas filters are also great for transferring and combining the dirty bottom fuel left in containers. I try to fill from containers whenever possible. Not only can you see what's going into the tank but you can avoid pouring in that last bit of muck/water that often shows up down at the bottom of the 5 gal. container.
 

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Clean prop, clean bottom helps to reduce cost in fuel as if we didn't know. I always if possible go for premium fuel on sailboat. Sail power.
 

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Or buy a Baja filter.
Yeah, or that.

I admit the people needed to buy 2000 gallons of diesel at a time have a lot bigger problem than people like me who buy 20-40 gallons at a time.

But, I can't believe anyone who has ever looked in the bottom of one of their jerry cans after filling it with diesel, isn't concerned about contaminants.

(I drained the integral tank on my center console (gasoline) the other day, and the last thing that came out of the tank was a dead roach, about an inch long). :D
 
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