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Hello,

Earlier today I made the huge mistake of hitting the pillar of my dock at the marina. Yes, it was an operator error, yes it was very windy, and I take full responsibility over what I did and will definitely take this as a huge lesson learned :(.

However, I have a question on how to go about the repairs. My pulpit is toast for it has bent back. The tip of the bow that the base of the middle fork of the pulpit was ripped off because of the sheer force. Thankfully no screws were ripped out of the deck. The place where the fiberglass broke off was on the outer part of the boat so there are no holes/leaks exposed to the cabin.

I would really prefer to do the repairs myself. Any suggestions on how to go about doing them? I have a friend who has done fiberglass repairs before on a hull. Also, an estimated cost would be great to. Please do not criticize for I know my mistake and am definitely embarrassed enough, just any repair advice would be extremely helpful.
 

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the pulpit can be fixed by a welder with stainless welding experence. or you could try to bend it back with it OFF the boat.

You can "glue" the broken piece back in place with epoxy. fill with marine tex.

Glass can be fixed with "kitty hair" or putty you mix up. matching the color of the gelcoat is always difficult most people don't try and use Marine Tex. You could "maybe find alum or stainless tubing with an inside dia of the rail that is damaged, cut it into half round channels. have the welder make up a plate.... and add an anchor roller...
 

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I'm real handy, but I'm not sure that is a job you want to do yourself. That's not a bandaid, the whole front piece that hold your bow pulpit is simply ripped off. If you lost one of your fingers, you'd go to a surgeon to put it back on, you wouldn't try superglue.

IMO, your problem is that you need a triangle piece of 1/2 inch stainless steel to connect to your decking to connect the bow pulpit to. I doubt whether you can make that strong enough yourself when the whole front piece of the sail boat was ripped off with just an epoxy re-attachment.

I'd sand it down, epoxy seal it, and put in a new bow piece made of SS custom cut for the attachement to the pulpit, and six inches on both sides down the rail. And you need a whole new bow pulpit from the factory. You can't fix that one, its bent in three places.

OTHERWISE find a pro to help you.
 

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First off sorry for your bad day.....just remember we all have had days like that even if we don't admit it. I would agree with what Denise said and might add that you may want to look closely at the forestay connection and make sure there was no damage there. The ss you will need help with, the glass part is easy.
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That would be an easy repair with polyester resin/mat/cloth. I repaired something similar where the stem plate along with a piece of the deck was torn off a boat that I had purchased. Hiding the repair with gel coat or paint would be the hardest part.
 

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Thank-you for all of the suggestions/responses.

The connection of the fore stay was one of the first things I looked at to see if there was damage. Thankfully there was not. It is literally just the tip of the bow.

I was thinking of doing what denise said and put it back on with marine tex. Please correct me if I am wrong but if I do it that way, it won't be nearly as strong as it would be with Zarathu's suggestion of a steel 1/2 plate but it will still be strong enough to drill in an entire new pulpit.

Also, I can try to bend back the aluminum but I feel like that would make the pulpit much weaker. I have been looking for new pulpits but I cannot find one from the factory. Do you happen to know where I can find a 1978 ranger 22 pulpit or are are there any other's I can use. I would like to avoid going to another fab shop to save on cost. The pulpits I found for 22-24 foot sailboats (similar to my old pulpit) were 200 dollars.
 

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We replaced the pulpit on our 27' boat with one supposedly made for our boat. The footprint of the pulpit was different than our old pulpit! We also paid way more than $200 for our new pulpit ($750 - yikes!).

So I'd suggest you buy a new pulpit from a similar sized boat for $200. I'd want to get one with a different footprint anyway - I am not fond of the way your 3 legged pulpit has the one leg at the extreme bow of the boat. A pulpit with 4 legs (2 on either side) will set back the pulpit legs from the extreme bow making it less likely to be the first thing to meet a dock the next time around.

Get some epoxy or polyester resin to use for repairing the bow & filling the old pulpit foot holes. It will come in handy for future projects and repairs.
 

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Take the p[ulpit to a good metal fab shop, they should be able to straighten out the dmgd center strut enough to get a measurement for repair/replacement piece. They should also be able to heat the upper angle bends and bring them back to shape. As far as the glass repair What Denise said, or just reconstruct a new top section in place with glass and resin, and have a plate vmade to fit the shape of the bow with an attachment point for the bow rail that can be through bolted over a wider area!
 

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Learning to work fiberglass, what fun. Denise has the answer, though I would be tempted to fashion a new four leg pulpit. Is there a welding teaching program where you live? I'd bet that if you did the cutting and filling they would welcome the welding opportunity.
Let us know how it turns out.
And don't feel bad about the incident. Surely you have seen how many bent pulpits there are in any good size marina. Some people just bend them back to almost original shape and say good enough.
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The glass work is easy. Color matching not so as others have said. Either pay your local gel coat color matching specialist to do it OR take the damaged bit to the local Napa store and pick up the closest rattle can. I went the latter route once and even though it was a patch on the side of the hull you could not find it after a week or two.

I don't think the pulpit is worth repairing but ask your local stainless guy. Adapting a used one might work.

Getting a new one made to fit will be expensive.
 

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So what the general consensus is saying is to try to bend back the pulpit, if that doesn't work order a new one. As far as the fiberglass repair goes... it will be a great learning experience and I should create a new cut out v shape or attempt to patch on the broken off piece.

Thanks again for all of your suggestions. I will let you know the end result!
 

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I would use this experience as an opportunity to install a nice anchor roller with a very beefy front, which will minimize any potential damage to your bow in the future. Sh...t happens, but you can minimize the damage through better design.
 

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So what the general consensus is saying is to try to bend back the pulpit, if that doesn't work order a new one. As far as the fiberglass repair goes... it will be a great learning experience and I should create a new cut out v shape or attempt to patch on the broken off piece.

Thanks again for all of your suggestions. I will let you know the end result!
My my experience with a slight bend in a stern rail (guy on the mooring behind us missed his pickup stick...) I doubt that rail will straighten, you can try but I suspect you'll end up using the services of a local tubing fabricator, who will build you a replacement rail to the tune of $4-500. You can try patching on the broken piece, to provide more strength consider inserting a a pair of 3" ss screws ,fore-to-aft, through the joint on each side, counter-sink the heads and cover with gelcoat or Marine-tex.
 

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rails are made of very thin wall ss tubing...

although mine wasnt as badly bent I managed to have it(pulpit) fixed down(bend 2 legs and weld) here for around $40 including new feet and welds...polished too...

this damage is more extreme but I would at least try.
 
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I know this isn't exactly the same thing, but my bow cap was destroyed; not by me but the PO. He had hidden the damage with black silicone so it looked pretty good, no, really. But as things aged the extent of the damage became readily apparent. SO finally, I grew a spine and pulled it off for a little work. I shaped the leading edge and about 1/3 of the sides with modeling clay. Then I glassed over the whole thing adding extra to the impact areas. There are about 6 layers on the edges and three on the flat surface. After sanding, filling, sanding, filling sanding and a little sanding, I primed it and painted it with . . . truck bed liner. Can't think of a harsher environment than that. The photo isn't as clear as I would like, but I think you can see the textured surface and the clean lines. It's been installed for a few years now and it's holding up well.
 

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The hardest thing about resin/epoxy and fiberglass work is the sanding and other clean up that comes afterward.
The whole point of that area of the bow is cosmetic and unless you are going for re-sale value on an otherwise pristine original boat it does not need to look like new.

As to the pulpit, use a dremel with a cutting wheel and remove the bent upright. Order some 7/8 inch tube, cut it to size and have it welded back on if you like, or just leave it 'custom'.
Depending on your area you may be able to find a 'salvage' reseller (for example, http://www.baconsails.biz/ here in Annapolis) that might have pieces and parts such as a pulpit for a reasonable price.
 
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